Any good reason to stick with 1st Gen?

[WNDSRFR]

Pople running 87 octane boosted.

[Ultramaroon]

Suckers that fell for the valve spring recall.

[bcj]

Because OG

[WildCard600]

It's already paid for?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by bcj

Because OG

+1

[ruturaj001]

Given the resale value of old gen, I would have gotten rid of mine for 2nd gen. It's always value you get out of money you spend. If I could get 25k after 5 years (given I am seeing 2018 for 25k), I would trade for same car that's new but in this case you are getting much more. That's just my thought process, not advice.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Engine failure in the 22+?

I’m seeing this in the media and on here. Would this be another reason to stick to the first gen or is the issue overblown?

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153686

Way overblown. There are something like 17k+ 22/23 twins sold, with a handful of failures.

[wbradley]

Because racecar.

[LRNAD90]

Hugely objective, but personally still find the lines of the 1st gen more pleasing to the eye. Personally both generations need to be slightly lowered (no more than an inch) with better wheels/tires ultimately, but when done to both, still find the 1st gen lines the prettier of the two.

That being said, it seems pretty clear that the 2nd gen is superior to the 1st in almost all measurable categories (as well as feel - other than the EPS that some feel lost feel), and with the current state of used car prices, a 2nd gen car available at or below MSRP is a much better value proposition than a 6-10 YO 1st gen with anywhere from 40-90K miles, and their ridiculous asking prices..

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by ruturaj001

Given the resale value of old gen, I would have gotten rid of mine for 2nd gen. It's always value you get out of money you spend. If I could get 25k after 5 years (given I am seeing 2018 for 25k), I would trade for same car that's new but in this case you are getting much more. That's just my thought process, not advice.

Unless you can find a 2nd gen for MSRP or close to it, you're not actually gaining anything valuewise, its just a bigger number.

Thats one thing no one seems to realize. Theres a reason why things have gone up in value....everything else has gotten more expensive as well.

[ruturaj001]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Unless you can find a 2nd gen for MSRP or close to it, you're not actually gaining anything valuewise, its just a bigger number.

Thats one thing no one seems to realize. Theres a reason why things have gone up in value....everything else has gotten more expensive as well.

I bought my BRZ at invoice (2k below MSRP) last year. Many have bought at MSRP, many are available at MSRP right now. There is no reason to pay over MSRP currently unless one is impatient.

[Spektyr]

Originally Posted by LRNAD90

Hugely objective, but personally still find the lines of the 1st gen more pleasing to the eye. Personally both generations need to be slightly lowered (no more than an inch) with better wheels/tires ultimately, but when done to both, still find the 1st gen lines the prettier of the two.

That being said, it seems pretty clear that the 2nd gen is superior to the 1st in almost all measurable categories (as well as feel - other than the EPS that some feel lost feel), and with the current state of used car prices, a 2nd gen car available at or below MSRP is a much better value proposition than a 6-10 YO 1st gen with anywhere from 40-90K miles, and their ridiculous asking prices..

In some ways I like the look of the 1st gen better and in others I like the 2nd gen better. The first gen cars to me look more like a smaller car company's design (for obvious reasons). Big car companies tend to build a beautiful concept car, full of character and style, and then the production model is a blurred, numbed version of that. The designers crank it up to 11 and then the suits dial it back to a 6. Like "whoa now, we can't have a car that evokes actual emotions - some people might not like it."

Basically like American lager. They make it as uninteresting as possible to appeal the the largest audience possible (and then offend - or appeal to - no one at all.)

1st Gens have more character.

But the 2nd Gens still have enough. They're a bit more tame in looks, but there's a lot that doesn't show up well in pictures but you see in person that still makes them absolutely stunning to look at.

Basically, the performance improvements in the 2nd Gen more than make up for the losses in visual interest for me.

[Ernest72]

Car market will crash soon enough. Don’t overpay. These are great cars but not if you overpay. Sticking with my 16BRZ daily, no payments is very nice. Almost 100k, just gonna put as many miles on her as I can. When I need torque, just get it over 4k and enjoy.

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by Ernest72

When I need torque, just get it over 4k and enjoy.

Or just change the headers and get a tune, problem solved.