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whoa, I thought this was gonna be a boring build thread-turns out its a pissing contest! (just giving you guys a hard time-so don't take it too personally lol)
I'm still interested in seeing results from the WORKS turbo kits. Sure they might not make the most power, but for 8/10 people, their turbo'd car is for street use. I heard the ESC mentioned, and I happen to have it. Do I make crazy power? No. Can I go 10/10ths on the track all crazy? No. I drive my car on the street, and it does a perfect job of when I want a little more ooomph. Pretty sure the stage 1 Works kit is along those lines. I am VERY interested to see what happens with reliability of this kit. Our cars run pretty hot already, so as more of these(or any? I haven't seen any "real" street users yet) come out/are used, it'll be more apparent what works/doesn't work. Ultimately, I like seeing kits come out for this car. Make sense or not, doesn't matter-the "bad" kits will die off, and the better/powerful/more reliable kits will prevail or at least be known. Sub'd for build. Make sure you keep up with photos/posts and feedback. |
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The intercoolong stuff is common 'best practice' knowledge. A single mention would have sufficed.
Why not wait for somebody to actually install this particular kit and try it for real before we all get our ****s in a flap?
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For reference, see below for logs of the default EcuTek logging parameters for the stage 1 kit with an ambient temperature of ~40F:
http://www.datazap.me/u/frede/workst...e?log=0&data=4 93 Octane http://www.datazap.me/u/frede/workst...0?log=0&data=5 E70 |
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Front mounted turbos heat soak WAY worse than rear mounted, so this is already starting off at an advantage.
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I get where Mike is coming from because he actually tracks his cars, and puts them through a lot of torture, but he's far from the average owner, so his needs are VERY different than someone just looking for a bit more grunt on the street. Not sure what your excuse is. Also, see the logs below. 40F is ~4C, highest IAT is 20C. I get a bigger spread in IAT sitting at a red light for 60 seconds. Most of the time it's within 6C of ambient, which is actually about what I see on mine on the highway N/A. Now you have logs proving it's actually working quite well, what's your next story? Quote:
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This guy is still talking.......
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I ran the mr2 with Touge.ca at cayuga a few years back. What's your issue? You've also proven to many of us here that you clealry have no direct experience with anything turbo. Seriously, all I see is a keyboard mechanic just reading and reposting what you find on the interwebs. Where is your direct experience? Anybody that knows me knows that I build first and foremost for reliability. Power comes second. You clealry have know grip of knowledge surrounding turbo cars and how they behave if you're kinned to Works stage1 kit. It put down a measly 250whp ON E85 is what they said. Seriously, if you're into cheap thrills and only need a tiny bump in hp to satisfy for pulls here and there, you've got ESC Phantom written all over you. I can't even begin to imagine what a stage1 works does on pumpgas. Yikes! You drive a 165whp frs, stop posing like you're a race car driver and please stop recommending what people should do in a FI application when you yourself don't even have any direct experience. Look, I get that you don't like me, but save face bro, you're making yourself look terrible. There's so much more I can say but I'm on break at work. My opinions on the stage 1 works kit is that it is trash. Do it right the first time and go stage2. Hell, even fab an a2a setup for the stage 1 if you don't want the complexities of an a2w system. But most importantly, intercooling is absolutely a necessity to turbocharging. I'm done. |
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So why not let the guy install it, run it, and then see how it goes? Seems like a discussion about a whole bunch of issues that haven't even arisen yet. The OP understands what he bought and will post up how everything works. If the overall design does turn out to be shitty, then I'm sure he'll let everyone know.
I'm actually pretty eager to read about a real world experience with this kit from a customer who installed it.
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Once again, just because it doesn't fit what YOU think someone should do with THEIR car, doesn't mean it's a bad product. It's really quite simple. I'm done arguing with you though, you clearly know everything that everyone could ever want out of their own car. We should all bow down to the turbocharging god. Bring your substantially faster MR2 out some time and see how much faster it isn't around a track than my wimpy 165whp FRS. I'm REALLY impressed you know how much power mine makes considering it hasn't even been on a dyno, and you have no idea what has been changed on it. You really ARE that godly.
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