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06-17-2013, 02:10 AM | #1 |
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KWV3 owners, did anyone remove the helper springs?
Was thinking about removing the helper springs just to sit a little bit lower so the wheel gap isnt as big. Has anyone done this yet?
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I installed mine today and my mechanic decided not to use them because they would not fit unless preloaded the spring. Any other owners with KWs done this?
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What ride height were you trying to set the car to? "Preloading" the spring might be necessary to get that ride height but there is nothing wrong with that. These shocks are adjusted by moving the spring collar so that sounds normal.
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One doesn't measure recommended drop / best working range for suspension by measuring wheel gap :P.
For our already relatively low cars with relatively low suspension travel reasonable drop to not fsck up suspension geometry too much is within 1". KW may have some specific recommended settings. Have you consulted specs? Installation manual? |
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you should sell your V3's and buy a set of racelands.
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It shouldn't be too difficult to get a decent drop out of the V3s and still remain within recommended specs. Unless I did something horribly wrong (it was my first time working with coilovers), I actually had to set them to the MAXIMUM height of the recommended range to prevent the car from being too low for my tastes. I'm running Raceseng Camber plates up front which have a "minimal stack height."
Note the shadows make the car seem a bit lower than it actually is in this photo. There is a gap between the tires and the top of the fender. As there should be!
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I’m still new to coilovers altogether but currently the ride is fine but might be a bit soft in front. Should I be worried about not having the helper springs in the front? It will just unsettle if I lift the car up right? I’m running camber plates from feal coilovers so it looks like this: |
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If you remove them to get the car lower, be sure to measure the amount of bump travel left at your desired ride height. It might be very little...
The only thing the helpers do is keep the springs seated at droop. This is because the shock has more travel than the main spring. They're not completely necessary, but a good idea, otherwise the spring has the opportunity to rattle around or get wedged in at an angle after it comes unseated. |
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The only reason to remove the helper springs to go lower is if you're already bottomed out on the spring perches.
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Thanks guys I’ll have a shop double check the install. It wasn’t installed since there was basically no room for the helper spring and we were already at the maximum (highest) height of the recommended settings. We also didn’t want to add preload to the main spring. Would I have to preload the main spring in order to get some room to install the helpers? |
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Short answer, don't do it unless there's enough tension on the main spring at full droop to keep it from becoming unseated. Quote:
Don't second guess the instructions, KW knows what they're doing.
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Maybe you need someone more familiar with adjustable coilovers doing this. |
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