Got popped for exhaust-CHP

[JeremyR]

Originally Posted by finch1750

What was the exact CVC they cited the exhaust under?

I want to know this too. Any catback is legal if it is under 95db. It's post smog equipment so as long as it's not above the db limit technically its legal. Most of these tickets being written are by cops who know nothing and are citing you incorrectly.



If you do decide to BAR it, they should be able to give you a badge/label for the car for it as well if need be.



Even if the new law says its no longer a fix it ticket, if the officer was in the wrong, and you can prove it, the judge can throw it out.

[Thunder86]

Damn I actually was living in Rohnert Park bout a year ago (SSU student). Cops up there can either be super chill or .....

I was planning on getting an axle back muffler delete (probably FT-86SF). I’m assuming that should be state legal noise-wise and smog-wise?

[Thaeyo]

Originally Posted by Thunder86

Damn I actually was living in Rohnert Park bout a year ago (SSU student). Cops up there can either be super chill or .....

I was planning on getting an axle back muffler delete (probably FT-86SF). I’m assuming that should be state legal noise-wise and smog-wise?

A muffler delete wouldn't be legal since you have to have an adequate muffler in good working condition. But a catback with a muffler would

[JeremyR]

Has to have a muffler! Most catbacks have a muffler of some sort.




https://www.instagram.com/p/BsUiEeYFnD8/


https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=27151




If your catback is legal, fight the ticket, than file a complaint against the officer.

[Decep]

Originally Posted by JeremyR

I want to know this too. Any catback is legal if it is under 95db. It's post smog equipment so as long as it's not above the db limit technically its legal. Most of these tickets being written are by cops who know nothing and are citing you incorrectly.



If you do decide to BAR it, they should be able to give you a badge/label for the car for it as well if need be.



Even if the new law says its no longer a fix it ticket, if the officer was in the wrong, and you can prove it, the judge can throw it out.

Ill check tomorrow.

The problem is the cops are given a lot of discretion in citing this. if it sounds different than stock youre gonna get a ticket. Like many tickets they hope you wont take time out of your day to go fight it in court. revenue generation 101

[Decep]

27150vc is what I was cited for.

[DandoX]

Get it tested by a regulated test station. If it passes take it to court and fight it. In fact just fight it either way. It is possible to fight a speeding ticket and win. https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123703

Such a BS law, I mean while they never seem to cite crazy loud bro dozers trucks or god damn bikes that make my ears ring.

Funny story a dude at my work got hit in south bay for a speeding ticket and loud exhaust on a totally bone stock hellcat. He took it to court and let his lawyer fight it and won because the car was not modified in anyway. Stock hellcat is just crazy loud and the cop was being a dingle-berry.


I think that every loud exhaust ticket that is borderline should be fought. Especially when there are much louder vehicles making more noise and pollution and coal rolling not getting these tickets.

[JeremyR]

Originally Posted by Decep

27150vc is what I was cited for.

Should be easy to get this thrown out. This is usually what they cite people with straight pipes and no mufflers for. If your catback has a muffler, you're good.



http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...ctionNum=27150.


27150.

(a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device.
(b) Except as provided in Division 16.5 (commencing with Section 38000) with respect to off-highway motor vehicles subject to identification, every passenger vehicle operated off the highways shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained so as to meet the requirements of Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200), and no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device.
(c) The provisions of subdivision (b) shall not be applicable to passenger vehicles being operated off the highways in an organized racing or competitive event conducted under the auspices of a recognized sanctioning body or by permit issued by the local governmental authority having jurisdiction.
(Amended by Stats. 1977, Ch. 558.)

[NeedsBoostt]

Originally Posted by Decep

What did you get a ticket for, exhaust as well?

I was given a state referee ticket;I was hit for non-correctable emissions and obviously forced to get a state ref to prove the car is smog legal.

I was given a verbal on exhaust.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by DandoX

Get it tested by a regulated test station. If it passes take it to court and fight it. In fact just fight it either way. It is possible to fight a speeding ticket and win. https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123703

Such a BS law, I mean while they never seem to cite crazy loud bro dozers trucks or god damn bikes that make my ears ring.

Funny story a dude at my work got hit in south bay for a speeding ticket and loud exhaust on a totally bone stock hellcat. He took it to court and let his lawyer fight it and won because the car was not modified in anyway. Stock hellcat is just crazy loud and the cop was being a dingle-berry.


I think that every loud exhaust ticket that is borderline should be fought. Especially when there are much louder vehicles making more noise and pollution and coal rolling not getting these tickets.

The manufacturers have to comply with noise regulations, even with motorcycles. Even my two valve/cylinder Ducati Monster 796 came with an exhaust servo motor that limits exhaust flow in the last 500-1000 rpms, so dbs are under 95. Hellcat should be no different. I know the Mustangs have a servo motor for the exhaust depending on the mode; maybe the Hellcat does too. Just because it is stock doesn’t mean driving in any mode like track mode/loudness is legal.

[Xxyion]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

The manufacturers have to comply with noise regulations, even with motorcycles. Even my two valve/cylinder Ducati Monster 796 came with an exhaust servo motor that limits exhaust flow in the last 500-1000 rpms, so dbs are under 95. Hellcat should be no different. I know the Mustangs have a servo motor for the exhaust depending on the mode; maybe the Hellcat does too. Just because it is stock doesn’t mean driving in any mode like track mode/loudness is legal.

The problem is that you have cars like the Fiat Abarth that comes from factory with a muffler delete and is around 102db. Sports mode in that car doesnt make the exhaust louder, thats just what it is.
A 2005 STI tests at 92 db which is damn close to the limit
Also a 1998 RS measures at around 98 which is above the limit.

Theres a lot of cars out there that dont comply with the 95db law and they dont have active exhausts.

[Xxyion]

Also, we actually dont even have the strictest noise level laws. Plenty of other states have the 95 db limit. But heres a surprising one.

Oregon has an 88 db limit for vehicles manufactured after 1976 and motorcycles and mopeds have a 91db limit.

I think the difference is just that we have more people in CA and so it seems like we get pinged for it more.

[DandoX]

I have the 2.5 perrin catback and I know that can be over the limit (98db) at like 7k rpm. However from what I understand for the db test they do not redline the car. They take it to around 4k or something in which it would still comply with the law.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Xxyion

The problem is that you have cars like the Fiat Abarth that comes from factory with a muffler delete and is around 102db. Sports mode in that car doesnt make the exhaust louder, thats just what it is.
A 2005 STI tests at 92 db which is damn close to the limit
Also a 1998 RS measures at around 98 which is above the limit.

Theres a lot of cars out there that dont comply with the 95db law and they dont have active exhausts.

Where did you get that number?