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I'm definitely getting one | 32 | 12.17% | |
I might get one if they offer a MT | 100 | 38.02% | |
No, not me. | 131 | 49.81% | |
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03-05-2020, 06:34 AM | #2115 | |
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Not comparing anything, BTW. Just bringing up the fact that by your own logic, the 2000GT doesn't deserve its place as Toyota's flagship. For as much as the car is famous for its accomplishments (and gasp, a James Bond movie), that doesn't change the fact that the motor shares its parts with Toyota passenger cars, just like the Supra shares its motor with several other Toyota/Lexus models. If it makes you feel better, I'll stop replying to you, because you've proven to me that you're incapable of having a civil discussion, you're making assumptions and putting words in my mouth, and you're factually wrong on basic Toyota history. I don't intend on derailing the thread with such a fruitless argument that will amount to nothing but your essay-long rants, and I wouldn't wish this on anybody else wanting to read through the thread. You're free to keep replying to me though; I wasn't really trying to troll you initially, but after your essay, I kind of was. And clearly, it worked. See you later, abraxis! |
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I focus more on fun to drive and the Camaro is more fun to drive IMO than the 86 is. Again, haven't driven a Zupra.. and likely won't unless one actually shows up to the track and I get curious and the owner is willing. Otherwise the Zupra could cease to exist tomorrow and I wouldn't even remember it ever existed except for threads about it. It's just hilarious to me that you even use the word research when you claimed you could get a Cressida with a 2JZ from the factory.
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@abraxis is in for a big surprise if he tried to beat an SS off the line with a Supra on public streets.
Camaro SS is almost a second faster in the real world 5-60 mph acceleration measurement. Over 20% faster.
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If you guys are comparing a Camaro to a Supra, it's a bit moot. They look VASTLY different. I personally think the Camaro looks like a turd and the Supra looks wonderful. There will be an equal number of people thinking the exact opposite. I would probably prefer the Supra interior cause I really dislike the old school gauge cluster on the Camaro. Everything is just big and bulky and American. The only selling point over the Supra is the option of a manual gearbox. Both have crap visibility. I highly doubt there are too many people cross-shopping the two. The demographic groups the two cars cater to are completely different, have different likes and brand loyalties, american muscle vs JDM. The Camaro never even crosses my mind, and I don't care how good it apparently is, I would just never buy it. I don't like the looks, I don't like the interior, I don't like the idea of driving a Chevrolet. With the Supra, I don't like that it's auto. If I won it in a raffle, I'd keep it. I like it but I wouldn't pay money to own one.
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I was a Toyota fanboy once too.. ended in the 90s lol
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Eh, I'm not a devoted "fanboy" to any brand.
I've owned cars from Honda/Acura, Mitsubishi, Ford, VW, Nissan and Mazda. None were terrible, none were great. They each had their strengths and weaknesses. I've had a old Jetta VR6 that had no engine issues whatsoever for over 90k miles but had a new Honda J30 V6 that had, according to the dealer, "bent valves from kissing the top of a cylinder" (poor factory adjustment?) which was replaced under warranty at just 5k miles! You can get a lemon from Lexus and a Chevy that'll last a lifetime without any issues. There is no so-called "curse" Lol. Personally, I love the Supra. Yes, I'm a diehard manual fan, but I'd give it up for that sweet ZF. It's proportions and looks are perfect, to me, since it's all subjective anyway. I'd just get an extended warranty if I were to keep it a long time - because BMW. Lol. However, when it comes to "large" sports cars, I prefer the interior of the Mustang to the Camaro, but prefer the Camaro's exterior design to the Mustang. No, I'm not a GM hater. I actually prefer the C7 to the C8. Lol. Heck, I'd even buy a mid-engined Fiero if they'd bring it back! I just don't like "sports cars" that are over 180" in length - just a preference. |
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As for the 2JZ Cressida, that was my mistake. I had a friend when I was younger that had a 2JZ Cressida that wanted to upgrade to a GTE so I assumed incorrectly way back that he had a stock configuration. The 1JZ was the latest the Cressida got in most recent guise. I'm happy to admit I made a mistake on a specific detail unlike someone else that likes to parade around like a Boss regardless of not owning up to any errors in logic, grammar, economics, history or reading comprehension. Regardless, that's something they should work on in their own time and space. My main gripe with the modern pony cars is they aren't pony cars anymore, more like Clydesdales. Effing huge! I've fantasized of the modern Camaro or Mustang in 3/4's scale and weight. I'd easily reconsider dropping cash on those if they were just smaller and lighter despite all the other things I don't like about them. And yeah the 86 engine recall was a total fuck up. Thankfully I was not part of that VIN range; and I never let dealers or anyone else work on any of my cars anyway. I got ASE's way back just so I could be independent and free of bad techs and stealership antics and my best friend is a Lexus master tech. We used to laff at all the Mercedes AMGs next door that would have to pull and replace engines consistently. They kept a decent inventory of crate engines. Normally not an ideal scenario, but definitely preferable to a Subie tech messing up your car due to sheer negligence and giving it back to you. That is freaking awful. Akio definitely needs to have some fresh words with some employees who don't live at the track. |
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Mustangs and Camaros were never small and light unless you consider the Fox Body Mustang and I prefer to pretend that creation never existed. The Challenger has never ever been a Pony car and calling that 4 door travesty a "Charger" is a crime against humanity that can never be forgiven.
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The only car that has gotten smaller (compared to its replaced gen) is the ND.
I really wish cars came in different sizes like clothes. Cars nowadays are Large/XL. They should offer a scaled down 9/16th scale in Meadium. When will the Supra get a proper dual clutch transmission? |
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The 6th gen Camaro is smaller and lighter than the 5th gen.
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Which wasnt your point
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