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HKz · 09-21-2018, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantedTaken

The BRZ is actually a very fast car. 200 hp is no joke. Most cars are 50% heavier. So it's like having 300hp from a power to weight ratio perspective. No one calls 300hp slow.

Naw, it isn't the HP...the folks that constantly cry about power are missing the torque...too many people are used to FI or bigger displacement engines with much more low end torque and get appalled that they have to rev an engine out to get the power in a sports car

Yoshoobaroo · 09-21-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HKz

Naw, it isn't the HP...the folks that constantly cry about power are missing the torque...too many people are used to FI or bigger displacement engines with much more low end torque and get appalled that they have to rev an engine out to get the power in a sports car

I'll be pedantic for a second here, it's still the HP.
(HP/RPM) x 5252= Torque

HKz · 09-21-2018, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

I'll be pedantic for a second here, it's still the HP.
(HP/RPM) x 5252= Torque

too bad we ain't driving paper specs & math

LLYNCES · 09-26-2018, 02:21 AM

You press down on the accelerator, the car either goes really fast or it doesn't - that is the mindset most people have. The car is special when you understand the design philosophy of it - if you do not, then you will not have appreciation for it. It's really that simple.

Summerwolf · 09-26-2018, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantedTaken

The BRZ is actually a very fast car. 200 hp is no joke. Most cars are 50% heavier. So it's like having 300hp from a power to weight ratio perspective. No one calls 300hp slow.

What? Yeah they do. 300 HP in a normal "sporty" car is nothing.

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Originally Posted by HKz

Naw, it isn't the HP...the folks that constantly cry about power are missing the torque...too many people are used to FI or bigger displacement engines with much more low end torque and get appalled that they have to rev an engine out to get the power in a sports car

That's not it either. A lot of modern V8's need to be revved out for max performance. You do get MORE of it across the powerband though.

TommyW · 09-26-2018, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HKz

appalled that they have to rev an engine out to get the power in a sports car

Hence the unpopularity of the S2K? (sarc)

ermax · 09-26-2018, 09:55 AM

Isn't a linear powerband preferred by literally everyone? Of course people aren't appalled by needing to run to redline to get %100 out of an engine. I don't think getting %100 out of the FA20 has ever been a debate.

DarkPira7e · 09-26-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ermax

Isn't a linear powerband preferred by literally everyone? Of course people aren't appalled by needing to run to redline to get %100 out of an engine.

It's not preferred by all people, specifically the stock turbo WRX/STI crowd. They revel in the turbo surge that kicks in by 3,500 RPM and nose dives after 6.
For HPDE, I certainly value a linear powerband. For fun I think I want my mid range to spike and just keep hauling

Yardjass · 09-26-2018, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Correct, most of the time it ruins them. I've driven 275-300hp Miatas, they're a freaking handful.

I really hope they either had a poor/insufficient tires or you're kidding. They're really fine at those levels provided you have proper accompanying mods but like any car, they can get a dicey when you get up into the absurd power figures.

Summerwolf · 09-26-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Yardjass

I really hope they either had a poor/insufficient tires or you're kidding. They're really fine at those levels provided you have proper accompanying mods but like any car, they can get a dicey when you get up into the absurd power figures.

I helped build a turbo NA and that thing was a BLAST! The funniest miata I have ever driven actually.

8RZ · 09-26-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

turbo NA

This confuses so many non-Miata people lol.

"Turbo NA lolwtf?"

Yoshoobaroo · 09-26-2018, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ

This confuses so many non-Miata people lol.

"Turbo NA lolwtf?"

🤣🤣🤣

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Originally Posted by Yardjass

I really hope they either had a poor/insufficient tires or you're kidding. They're really fine at those levels provided you have proper accompanying mods but like any car, they can get a dicey when you get up into the absurd power figures.

Daily driven cars, so the suspension was soft, I think that was more of a limiting factor than the tires when it came to putting power down. Tires were 225 max perf summers IIRC, so not crazy when it comes to ultimate grip.

We were in college so once the turbo was on other mods were very much on the cheap.

Who am I kidding the turbo was as cheap as possible too 🤣

tehShirt · 09-26-2018, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

I helped build a turbo NA and that thing was a BLAST! The funniest miata I have ever driven actually.

Isn't this a naturally aspirated turbo?

Atmo · 09-26-2018, 04:50 PM

A year from now we'll be reading a lot of the same comments in this thread about the A90.

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