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Old 07-02-2020, 04:44 PM   #29
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I had a MK6 GTI before this and traded for the FRS because it was boring. I'd probably be bored with the turbo 4 Camaro and Mustang.

You are getting a car at the end of its production run so expect it to last forever if you take car of it, there are few of them on the road so it will be relatively rare, and with the 2017 and on MYs they have fully dialed in the driving experience.

I have a 2013, so I am somewhat biased against the car. In many ways it has aged well, but there are some underlying issues with early models that make the car feel worse than it actually is, like being twitchy at the limit, having a few bad NVH issues with the engine, and generally riding like garbage. But if my car died or got hit, I would not hesitate to buy another one.
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Old 07-03-2020, 05:39 AM   #30
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Since you're in southern CA, you should look into an e85 tune. It'll do a lot to wake up the engine.

A friend of mine has a stock AP2 S2000. We swap cars often on weekend canyon runs and I prefer my FR-S in a lot of respects. Don't get me wrong, the AP2 is a great car too and I always enjoy driving it, but the FR-S with e85 and some minor weight reduction has a noticeably wider powerband and is very similar in overall speed. Both cars have their respective advantages but I really love driving the FR-S personally.
I live by Arcadia area and I near Irviningdale speedway they have E85, the only concern I have is I have not done enough research to know if e85 would have any negative effect on the engine reliability, but i may try !
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I live by Arcadia area and I near Irviningdale speedway they have E85, the only concern I have is I have not done enough research to know if e85 would have any negative effect on the engine reliability, but i may try !
For what it's worth, I haven't heard of anyone having engine issues because of e85. Every once in a while, I'll run a tank of 91 through it and I'll change out the oil a little sooner, but that's about it. The OFT e85 tune is quite good from what I've seen in my logs. Only wish it was available closer to tracks like Buttonwilllow!
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:01 PM   #32
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I was also looking at MX5 like the OP before buying my 2019 TRD SE last nov, what drove me over is the 7k off MSRP (28.5k OTD) incentive that time. This is not my primary car so I have only driven 1k miles so far.

Given I have own Civic Si, IS300, Integra GSR, Honda S2000 before, I was hoping this car would give me the closest feeling toward the high rev cars that I have own before.
My TRD SE feels sharp and responsive in corners, acceleration is relatively ok with its size I believe. But I still would say I still miss my S2000 the most.

The S was still the best car I have driven so far and I have slight doubt not picking up a used one again instead of the 86, or maybe a used elise which is in similar price range.

The Integra GSR was so good!! My brothers girlfriend had one and we always borrowed it. It was black on black leather.
The Integra Type R is probably my all time favorite FWD car, I will own one some day! (Hopefully before prices get much higher) A good buddy of mine had one, it was broken into two times, and the red Acura badge was stolen at one point. He stopped driving it he was so worried about it getting stolen. This was in about 2003.


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I live by Arcadia area and I near Irviningdale speedway they have E85, the only concern I have is I have not done enough research to know if e85 would have any negative effect on the engine reliability, but i may try !
E85 hasn't had any adverse effect on a car engine made after about 1980. They don't use the same natural rubber materials anymore so there is nothing for it to dry out and destroy. Modern poly, silicone and other synthetics stand up much better.
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I live by Arcadia area and I near Irviningdale speedway they have E85, the only concern I have is I have not done enough research to know if e85 would have any negative effect on the engine reliability, but i may try !
You need a tune to run high amounts of Ethanol of course.

One note is that pretty much all fuel in the US is e10-e15.
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