I F'd up... - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

echo419 · 03-21-2022, 01:18 PM

Getting ready to sell/trade(probably trade since I need a new AC compressor and I don't want to fix it) the BRZ and I decided to pull off the light weight pullies that I installed shortly after I bought it.

welp, I went to pull off the crank pulley and the spacer came out with it. So I said, "F that" and put it back. cranked it up no problem and when I went to check it the crank pulley was wobbling like hell. FML! so I shut it down and now I can't get the crank pulley spacer to sit flush or even close to it. It seems like I can line things up ok but I must be doing something wrong.

HALP! How do I get this damn thing back in?

humfrz · 03-21-2022, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by echo419

Getting ready to sell/trade(probably trade since I need a new AC compressor and I don't want to fix it) the BRZ and I decided to pull off the light weight pullies that I installed shortly after I bought it.

welp, I went to pull off the crank pulley and the spacer came out with it. So I said, "F that" and put it back. cranked it up no problem and when I went to check it the crank pulley was wobbling like hell. FML! so I shut it down and now I can't get the crank pulley spacer to sit flush or even close to it. It seems like I can line things up ok but I must be doing something wrong.

HALP! How do I get this damn thing back in?

- that's for putting light weight pulleys on to start with.

- that's for trying to take them off.

Sorry, I have no idea about to fix your car, however, I do believe that someone will come along soon to help you out.

echo419 · 03-21-2022, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

- that's for putting light weight pulleys on to start with.

- that's for trying to take them off.

Sorry, I have no idea about to fix your car, however, I do believe that someone will come along soon to help you out.

I'm really dumb.... crap, I'm going to have to run for public office now.

BlkTrax · 03-21-2022, 02:31 PM

You didn't get the keyway lined up, and likely mushroomed the key on the crank.

If you get some small files, you can clean up the keyway on the sleeve and get in there and clean up the edges of the key itself.

You're going to need a new seal as you'll tear it up trying to file the key.

Otherwise it's pulling the front cover, and the chains to replace the key itself.

Ultramaroon · 03-21-2022, 02:45 PM

At first I thanked and then I realized that the suggestion may have been to file the key in place.

Please don't introduce steel shavings into the crankcase. It's almost 100% that the key is deformed enough to warrant replacement. Try chamfering the opening for the keyway on the sleeve and see if you can get it to start. If it goes, you dodged a bullet. Still an awful hidden problem to pass on to someone else. Do the right thing.

humfrz · 03-21-2022, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by echo419

I'm really dumb.... crap, I'm going to have to run for public office now.

echo419 · 03-21-2022, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkTrax

You didn't get the keyway lined up, and likely mushroomed the key on the crank.

If you get some small files, you can clean up the keyway on the sleeve and get in there and clean up the edges of the key itself.

You're going to need a new seal as you'll tear it up trying to file the key.

Otherwise it's pulling the front cover, and the chains to replace the key itself.

10 to 1 that's exactly what happened. fml.

I guess now the only question is how hard is the steel on the spacer.

BlkTrax · 03-21-2022, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by echo419

10 to 1 that's exactly what happened. fml.

I guess now the only question is how hard is the steel on the spacer.

Had to do this back in 2013, customer didn't want to pull the cover. Took about an hour of filing both, wiped the crank with a cloth, lil bit of brake clean, replaced the seal, and did and oil change.

Square and Triangle files got it done
https://www.amazon.com/Key-File-Set-6/dp/B0058ECM5Y

NoHaveMSG · 03-21-2022, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by echo419

10 to 1 that's exactly what happened. fml.

I guess now the only question is how hard is the steel on the spacer.

I have one of those spacers if yours is too F'ed up. I can pull the key out of my spare engine too. I'd want to pull the timing cover and make sure you didn't crack the timing chain gear, we have seen that happen before in other threads.

echo419 · 03-21-2022, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

I have one of those spacers if yours is too F'ed up. I can pull the key out of my spare engine too. I'd want to pull the timing cover and make sure you didn't crack the timing chain gear, we have seen that happen before in other threads.

awesome! Thanks!

I'll let you know tomorrow after I try to get this thing to fit.

echo419 · 03-25-2022, 11:06 AM

Got it grinded down and put together. Everything is running great now. Thanks for all the input.

humfrz · 03-27-2022, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by echo419

Got it grinded down and put together. Everything is running great now. Thanks for all the input.

Are you related to Bubba?

soundman98 · 03-27-2022, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

Are you related to Bubba?

we're all related to bubba!

blsfrs · 03-28-2022, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by echo419

Got it grinded down and put together. Everything is running great now. Thanks for all the input.

I know that it's too little-too late but lookie what I forund.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26386

03-21-2022, 01:18 PM	#1
echo419 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ Limited Location: Atlanta Posts: 3,150 Thanks: 4,291 Thanked 4,057 Times in 1,879 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	I F'd up... Getting ready to sell/trade(probably trade since I need a new AC compressor and I don't want to fix it) the BRZ and I decided to pull off the light weight pullies that I installed shortly after I bought it. welp, I went to pull off the crank pulley and the spacer came out with it. So I said, "F that" and put it back. cranked it up no problem and when I went to check it the crank pulley was wobbling like hell. FML! so I shut it down and now I can't get the crank pulley spacer to sit flush or even close to it. It seems like I can line things up ok but I must be doing something wrong. HALP! How do I get this damn thing back in?

03-21-2022, 02:45 PM	#5
Ultramaroon 義理チョコ Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: a 13 e8h frs Location: vantucky, wa Posts: 31,868 Thanks: 52,131 Thanked 36,519 Times in 18,920 Posts Mentioned: 1106 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	At first I thanked and then I realized that the suggestion may have been to file the key in place. Please don't introduce steel shavings into the crankcase. It's almost 100% that the key is deformed enough to warrant replacement. Try chamfering the opening for the keyway on the sleeve and see if you can get it to start. If it goes, you dodged a bullet. Still an awful hidden problem to pass on to someone else. Do the right thing. __________________ service manuals

03-21-2022, 02:31 PM	#4
BlkTrax Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Drives: Car Location: USA Posts: 15 Thanks: 9 Thanked 24 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You didn't get the keyway lined up, and likely mushroomed the key on the crank. If you get some small files, you can clean up the keyway on the sleeve and get in there and clean up the edges of the key itself. You're going to need a new seal as you'll tear it up trying to file the key. Otherwise it's pulling the front cover, and the chains to replace the key itself.

03-25-2022, 11:06 AM	#11
echo419 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ Limited Location: Atlanta Posts: 3,150 Thanks: 4,291 Thanked 4,057 Times in 1,879 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	Got it grinded down and put together. Everything is running great now. Thanks for all the input.

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