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Old 03-19-2015, 08:26 AM   #1
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Random tip - cold starts

Hey peeps,

Just a quick tip I thought I would share in-case you didn't know.

I never like starting my car "normally" after it has been standing for a few days. Due to my working environment, the BRZ sometimes stands for a few days depending on how busy I am.

The following procedure will allow the car to crank for however long you want without starting.
It will also stop the car from having that obnoxiously loud - if you have an exhaust - (and sometimes cool) high idle which is primarily used for emissions purposes to warm the cat up.

Step by step:
1. Have your keys in the car and be seated in the drivers seat (obviously).
2. Put your clutch and accelerator pedal to the floor and hold them there.
3. Press the "Stop Start" button and allow it to crank for however long you want.
4. Release the clutch pedal and it will stop cranking.
5. Start the car normally: Clutch in and press "Stop Start"

NOTE: I have not tried this with a "standard" spec non-key-less entry car.
EDIT: Works with STD spec 86 too! (Thanks @Scarl3t !)
EDIT2: Works on auto's too. Simply replace the clutch with the brake pedal in the steps above. (Thanks @KoolBRZ !)

Benefits: The longer your car has been standing, the more oil will drain to the sump and away from the components that need it. Depending on how long the car has been standing for, a few revolutions are made with inadequate amounts of lubrication.
By cranking you car for a few seconds, you will get the oil circulating first.
Engine builders usually crank a car a few times before starting a new engine for the first time. In the aeromotive industry as well, it is procedure to crank the engine for x amount of seconds before ignition.

We enable this feature on most cars, especially race cars which tend to stand for a while between races.

The BRZ/86 has this feature build in and already enabled luckily.
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Old 03-19-2015, 08:40 AM   #2
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When I leave my car standing, it shivers and rattles just kakking itself for when I'm going to climb into it again and that keeps the oil circulating, so no problem for me.

On a more serious note - one learns something new every day. Thanks.
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When I leave my car standing, it shivers and rattles just kakking itself for when I'm going to climb into it again and that keeps the oil circulating, so no problem for me.

On a more serious note - one learns something new every day. Thanks.
Hahaha, it wouldn't dare let the oil drain in anticipation!

So true, pleasure
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Wow that's some really nice feature. Nice find!


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Nice tip there, thanks
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Are there any special conditions as to when not to do it? Cause I did it now to check and my 86 is completely dead/unresponsive now. It's like as if I disengaged the battery. Has anyone had this happen before? It's the second time now, can't even lock the doors. When the first time happened, the car came back after a short while. This time it's been 10-15min already and my 86 is still sitting here like a large, but good looking, brick.

I'm not well knowledged when it comes to cars even though I want and ought to be. Do any of you guys know what's happening? Did I allow petrol to go up into the engine? (Bear in mind when I tried this procedure, I don't think it even turned the oil once before everything died)
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Are there any special conditions as to when not to do it? Cause I did it now to check and my 86 is completely dead/unresponsive now. It's like as if I disengaged the battery. Has anyone had this happen before? It's the second time now, can't even lock the doors. When the first time happened, the car came back after a short while. This time it's been 10-15min already and my 86 is still sitting here like a large, but good looking, brick.

I'm not well knowledged when it comes to cars even though I want and ought to be. Do any of you guys know what's happening? Did I allow petrol to go up into the engine? (Bear in mind when I tried this procedure, I don't think it even turned the oil once before everything died)
Hi Ryliko,

Nope, no special conditions. I'll edit my first post to make the procedure more clear.

By "the second time now" did you try it before and the same thing happened?

Just got back from the garage testing it again and it works 100%.

I'll make a video this weekend to demonstrate.
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Hi Dammod,

I'm in no way doubting your tip or the process of it. if it's only my car that's had this issue then I think something's up with the car from factory.

The first time I don't actually recall what I specifically did. I didn't know about this procedure though. It was sort of a the car wouldn't start, tried it a few times, might have depressed the other pedals too in frustration. Got out the car and realized it wouldn't even lock and that everything seemed dead.

This second time however I followed the procedure though. I depressed the clutch first, then the accelerator, held down the engine start button. The car turned or was in the process of turning then everything died. I may have made the mistake of letting the engine start button go before the accelerator though but by this time the car had already died.
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Hi Dammod,

I'm in no way doubting your tip or the process of it. if it's only my car that's had this issue then I think something's up with the car from factory.

The first time I don't actually recall what I specifically did. I didn't know about this procedure though. It was sort of a the car wouldn't start, tried it a few times, might have depressed the other pedals too in frustration. Got out the car and realized it wouldn't even lock and that everything seemed dead.

This second time however I followed the procedure though. I depressed the clutch first, then the accelerator, held down the engine start button. The car turned or was in the process of turning then everything died. I may have made the mistake of letting the engine start button go before the accelerator though but by this time the car had already died.
That sounds like your battery is dead, or something shorted out (I hope not). Check your fuses?
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That sounds like your battery is dead, or something shorted out (I hope not).

Which is very odd considering I only got the car two months ago.

Thank you Dammod for helping
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No problem, just thought I would make it more of a "step by step" process as it needs a bit or coordination.

That is an odd issue you are having as it seems to be pretty random. Check this thread out, prehaps you might have the same issue.

Dont stress about it, manufacturing defaults do happen. Get your dealer to take a look at the car, I assume you are still under warranty?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18981
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Which is very odd considering I only got the car two months ago.

Thank you Dammod for helping
Edited my post too late, check your fuses maybe.
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Edited my post too late, check your fuses maybe.

Ah I apologise, I didn't notice it was your post Freedom. Thank you as well. I'm a car guy in nature but unfortunately not in theory, so I'll just be honest here and ask can you specifically point out where to look?

Yes, I'm still under warranty... though I can see a massive dispute coming as right after I installed the brz exhaust, my dealer from Market Toyota Cape Town sent his "regards" and stated that my car will be void of warranty (before I bought the car he even said powerflow' were allowed). I know technically they cannot just void it based on an exhaust which brings about a neglible effect on the engine... but that is another matter anf I don't want to derail this thread.
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Ah I apologise, I didn't notice it was your post Freedom. Thank you as well. I'm a car guy in nature but unfortunately not in theory, so I'll just be honest here and ask can you specifically point out where to look?

Yes, I'm still under warranty... though I can see a massive dispute coming as right after I installed the brz exhaust, my dealer from Market Toyota Cape Town sent his "regards" and stated that my car will be void of warranty (before I bought the car he even said powerflow' were allowed). I know technically they cannot just void it based on an exhaust which brings about a neglible effect on the engine... but that is another matter anf I don't want to derail this thread.
This is the fuse box, only ours in on the right hand side:

Don't let them push you around like that. Some dealers are far too quick to cancel warranties.

Show them the "98RON Only" stick on the inside of your petrol cap and ask them if using 95 will void your warrenty too.
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