Max power for $25K budget for 86?

[shadow85]

I have a Nissan 370Z atm, that I am currently planning on doing up with a TT kit and whole list of other mods. But because I am in Australia, there is next to no high quality performance parts for it here. Most things have to be bought from the states or Japan and shipped down here which costs shit loads, plus tax, import fees etc. The bill racks up very quickly because of all that.

On the other hand, cars like the 86, EVOs, WRX etc have plenty of high performance parts that can be bought locally and hence becomes much cheaper to mod such cars here.

I am considering selling my Z and buying an 86, since there is a wealth of parts to chose from locally, it will be so much cheaper for me to tune.

My question is what would be the max power I can get at the wheels on the Toyota 86 with a $25K budget?

I have only asked 1 tuner here who has done many turbo kits on these cars, and he reckons the engine won't take anymore than 260-280 rwkw(370 whp) even with built internals.

[strat61caster]

Does $25k include buying the car?

imo you're barking up the wrong tree but here's where to start your research, your tuner isn't wrong, you're not going to push past 400whp if you actually want to drive it a lot. The gearbox becomes a weak point and the formula drift guys say they could only get about 600 hp out of the FA20 and couldn't even do it reliably and switched to 2JZ's.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81428

if you want big power skip all the 4-bangers and get a V8, from what I understand there's plenty of them down there.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by shadow85

I am in Australia

I would guess the majority of the posters here are in North America, so you might want to specify whether you mean $25K AUD or USD. If you mean $25K in Australian dollars, everyone else should note that's around $19,800 in US dollars at the current exchange rate. That $5K could make a difference.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

I would guess the majority of the posters here are in North America, so you might want to specify whether you mean $25K AUD or USD. If you mean $25K in Australian dollars, everyone else should note that's around $19,800 in US dollars at the current exchange rate. That $5K could make a difference.

This is where I would normally jump in with my lecture on exchange rates meaning nothing in the country in which you are buying but in this case you are very correct. Unless the OP is buying everything local he will probably be paying for parts in US dollars and the rate can add up fast. Not only the rate but tariffs, durties, brokerage fees and shipping can all come into play when importing parts. My $72 EBay diffuser cost me well over $200 by the time everybody took their fees.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

This is where I would normally jump in with my lecture on exchange rates meaning nothing in the country in which you are buying but in this case you are very correct. Unless the OP is buying everything local he will probably be paying for parts in US dollars and the rate can add up fast. Not only the rate but tariffs, durties, brokerage fees and shipping can all come into play when importing parts. My $72 EBay diffuser cost me well over $200 by the time everybody took their fees.

I was thinking more about the kind of advice he'll get based on the total. If he means $25K AUD, someone in the US might base an opinion on $25K USD, when in reality OP has less than $20K USD to spend. A US poster might think he could pick up a used 86 and still have enough left over for a build, whereas that $5K difference could make that not the case.

He was saying he wants to buy parts locally anyway, which is one of the reasons he was interested in moving away from the Nissan in the first place. So most of the advice from the US will probably turn out to be useless anyway, since we really can't know how our prices here compare to Australian prices even with the exchange rate factored in.

[Slammillionaire]

200hp, 151 tq

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

I was thinking more about the kind of advice he'll get based on the total. If he means $25K AUD, someone in the US might base an opinion on $25K USD, when in reality OP has less than $20K USD to spend. A US poster might think he could pick up a used 86 and still have enough left over for a build, whereas that $5K difference could make that not the case.

He was saying he wants to buy parts locally anyway, which is one of the reasons he was interested in moving away from the Nissan in the first place. So most of the advice from the US will probably turn out to be useless anyway, since we freally can't know how our prices here compare to Australian prices even with the exchange rate factored in.

Ah but see that is the exchange rate fallacy. If buying in Austrila in Australian dollars then he does have $25k to spend. Exchange rate means nothing. It only comes into play when buying in foreign currencies. When I bought my car the Canadian dollar was stronger than the US at $1.02. The car cost me $30k Canadian. Now the dollar is low at .78 US the car still costs $30k. The price has not changed. We do not convert our money to US to buy things locally nor do our prices change with the exchange rate.
I have no idea why this concept is so hard for people to grasp.
Now, he may indeed not be able to buy a used one for the same price as in the US but that depends on the local going prices and has nothing at all to do with exchange rates to the U S dollar.

[Silver Supra]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ah but see that is the exchange rate fallacy. If buying in Austrila in Australian dollars then he does have $25k to spend. Exchange rate means nothing. It only comes into play when buying in foreign currencies. When I bought my car the Canadian dollar was stronger than the US at $1.02. The car cost me $30k Canadian. Now the dollar is low at .78 US the car still costs $30k. The price has not changed. We do not convert our money to US to buy things locally nor do our prices change with the exchange rate.
I have no idea why this concept is so hard for people to grasp.
Now, he may indeed not be able to buy a used one for the same price as in the US but that depends on the local going prices and has nothing at all to do with exchange rates to the U S dollar.

Yes and no.
I think the real issue is whether we know what the "local" prices for upgrades are if it is AUD.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Silver Supra

Yes and no.
I think the real issue is whether we know what the "local" prices for upgrades are if it is AUD.

More or less what I said in my last sentence.

Can't compare value against other countries even if the dollar value is one for one anyway.

[ImAdopted]

im assuming 25k AUD simply because he is there and said the parts are alot more local friendly for him but what do i know, im here in canada where it costs an extreme amount of money to get any car part shipped lol