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This thread is why OEM tend to make most cars understeer from the factory instead of oversteer :/
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Go to the more rural area in new territories. When I live there occasionally I come across big lots that is usually empty at night you can thrash your cars around. Don't stay too long though cops on foot is everywhere in Hk |
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I entered a rainy overpass with too much speed, tail wanted to kick out and the traction control definitely straightened the car out.
I've also run autoX with full TC ON once and it gave me an easier lap with much less sliding in the michelin primacy hp's. |
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Oh and by the way, why does everyone call them the "nannies"? Last edited by Chad86; 05-25-2014 at 11:39 AM. |
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Nanny: 1. a person, typically a woman, employed to look after a child in its own home. 2. be overprotective towards. It's because the electronics nanny you, hold your hand, reel you in when you try and have too much fun, stop you from hurting yourself. My understanding of this car is it deliberately has low traction so that the break away is at lower speeds, more progressive and controllable. It's meant to be playful. Like a Mk2 Ford Escort. If its being playful is scaring you, then maybe you should put bigger tyres on it or maybe you should consider a car which has a more traditional modern grip policy. (Hang on like it's on rails till the last minute, then kill you). I also drive a motorbike with about 300bhp per ton and a high torque twin, no traction control, no stability, no anti-locks. In the wet it requires respect, awareness and finesse. Not least because stepping out the tail on a motorbike can cause some rather bad things to happen. |
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I don't... and I don't like that expression. Turning off the electronics on the track is fine.Turning them off while driving on public roads is an unnecessary risk. I like the VSC Sport mode, btw. |
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I find it less balanced and doesn't drive better. Probably more fuel-efficient with 18.6kg less to carry (weighed it) but I think there's only a miniscule difference considering the car is over 12xx kg.
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Under certain conditions, yes. Twisting roads with very sharp turns, hill climbs on slippery snow/ice, other demanding situations at relatively low speeds.
It does nothing for highway cruising, of course. Example of road where I may choose to enjoy my GT86 with 225 Pilot Super Sport tyres in VSC Sport mode. Losing control of the car here is not an option, the road is narrow and the cliffs are lethal. Also, there may be hazards such as goats, trucks and germans in the road behind the next bend, so fast stopping is a good thing. Last edited by Sarlacc; 05-25-2014 at 03:54 PM. |
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It was rainy today and my tail kicked out when I was taking an exit ramp. At no point I feel out of control though. I was expecting the tail to kick out and I countersteer a bit until tc violently bought me straight again. If anything the tc was the scariest part of the whole experience, the sudden jerk back to straight
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So many blame the stock tires for loss of control or simply deride their performance. The tires are good and I'm sure more than sufficient for the average vehicle. Put them on a car with excellent handling then all of a sudden they're dangerous? That's Counterintuitive.
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Took me three weeks after getting the FR-S to swap from the stock tires to Pilot Super Sports.
Primacy HP's have no grip in wet. |
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