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Old 05-18-2020, 11:19 AM   #43
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Not so much obsessed with it, as wanted to understand if I need to spend the $1000+ to do so, as it's not clear whether the facelift header eliminates the need for it.
Run it and find out then
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Run it and find out then
Already running stage 1 and it's fine, but I don't have ready access to stage 2 so i'd rather know someone else has tried it before going that route.
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Already running stage 1 and it's fine, but I don't have ready access to stage 2 so i'd rather know someone else has tried it before going that route.
I just looked them over real quick. You are not going to hurt the car by running it. It has a bit more timing advance and the intake cam angles are a little different. Load it and log it.
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I just looked them over real quick. You are not going to hurt the car by running it. It has a bit more timing advance and the intake cam angles are a little different. Load it and log it.
And do what with the log? I'm not a tuner and nor do I have access to one.....hence the reason I went OFT
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So you replaced the front pipe too? Looking at potentially doing this one my '17 but not looking to add an exhaust to keep it quiet. Curious if the aftermarket header is needed at all, or if you could just go stage 2 OFT with the stock header.
Read this: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81493
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I just looked them over real quick. You are not going to hurt the car by running it. It has a bit more timing advance and the intake cam angles are a little different. Load it and log it.

I have a 2017+ and access to the Stage 2 OTS Tune.

I can give this try maybe tonight or tomorrow.

I've never logged before, but I think I know how to do it.

I'll post the log back here.
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I have a 2017+ and access to the Stage 2 OTS Tune.

I can give this try maybe tonight or tomorrow.

I've never logged before, but I think I know how to do it.

I'll post the log back here.
Appreciate that, look forward to getting your take on it.
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Log is attached.
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Log is attached.
Does it feel any different? IAM may hit 1 with more driving, doesn't look bad off the go.
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Does it feel any different? IAM may hit 1 with more driving, doesn't look bad off the go.

Hard to say after one short drive.

Throttle response felt good.

Still had a torque dip. Maybe not as pronounced?
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Log is attached.
Wouldn't know what I was looking at, but does anyone who knows what they're looking at see any issues with the data?
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Wouldn't know what I was looking at, but does anyone who knows what they're looking at see any issues with the data?
IAM is low but it may come up with some more driving. I didn't check that but looks like it defaulted to .7, otherwise looks okay. Need some more drive time on it and then re-log it to check for sure.
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IAM is low but it may come up with some more driving. I didn't check that but looks like it defaulted to .7, otherwise looks okay. Need some more drive time on it and then re-log it to check for sure.
Yes, IAM starts at .7


With v4.x OTS tune files, we only differentiate between CAT or NON-CATTED headers. There are simply too many headers on market to supply unique calibrations for all of them. To offset and create a tune file that is universal for EL or UEL header options, our initial IAM is now set to .7 (vs. the original 1.0).
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Yes, IAM starts at .7


With v4.x OTS tune files, we only differentiate between CAT or NON-CATTED headers. There are simply too many headers on market to supply unique calibrations for all of them. To offset and create a tune file that is universal for EL or UEL header options, our initial IAM is now set to .7 (vs. the original 1.0).
So..."IAM" is "Adv Multiplier" in the log?
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