|
Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack Specific topics relating to wheels and tires. |
![]() |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
![]() |
#1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Drives: 2018 BRZ
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 992
Thanks: 1,429
Thanked 841 Times in 482 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Tires for track/HPDE - anything better than RS4?
After tracking my Potenza Sports last year, I'm ready to put on some big boys track tires. I am only doing HPDE so I care about wear, heat tolerance , predictable performance and price and not lap times or outright pace. These tires will be used only on the track, so street drivability is not a concern (but it would be nice if I can track in safety in damp to wet conditions).
From my reading here and online (particularly the Grassroots Motorsports article for endurance 200TW), it looks like Hankook RS4 is the go-to tire for my needs. Are there any other good options I am overlooking? I'll be using Enkei RPF1s at 17x7.5 and would go with 215/45 or 225/45 (unless there's a reason to go wider). Car has stock drivetrain, RCE yellows, camber bolts and offset top hats (camber is -3 front and -2.2 rear). Currently using G-Loc R10 pads. Home track is Mid-Ohio, and I'll probably visit other midwestern tracks. Planning on doing 3-6 days a year. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
Drives: 2017 BRZ PP
Location: Ohio
Posts: 31
Thanks: 4
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quick question for you since we are both in Dayton. Any particular shop you would recommend to perform a good alignment in the area? I have a similar suspension setup and looking for those similar camber results.
Thanks in advance! |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,416
Thanks: 18,644
Thanked 16,679 Times in 7,560 Posts
Mentioned: 110 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
For what you are asking, kind of hard to beat the RS4. The Z3 is pretty comparable but won't last as long but is better in the wet in my experience. The SX2 lasts longer and is a bit slower and a bit worse in the wet, lot cheaper though and is 260TW. Haven't ran it but I heard the V730 is decent but not as long lasting.
__________________
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward." -Oscar Wilde.
|
![]() |
![]() |
The Following User Says Thank You to NoHaveMSG For This Useful Post: | Ohio Enthusiast (03-16-2023) |
![]() |
#4 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Drives: 2018 BRZ
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 992
Thanks: 1,429
Thanked 841 Times in 482 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
I did try and find some race-oriented alignment shop (specifically for corner balancing, but also to get a precision alignment and not just "can't do camber on this car; it's in the green") and Performance Alignment down in Cincinnati was the only one that really caught my eye. Feel free to shoot me a DM if you wanna talk some more. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
The Following User Says Thank You to Ohio Enthusiast For This Useful Post: | almostquick (03-20-2023) |
![]() |
#5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,565
Thanks: 2,013
Thanked 2,042 Times in 1,474 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
My vote is the v730s. Faster then the RS4s and cheaper to boot. They not last as long but are a fantastic constant tire. Think RS4 but faster
Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk
__________________
2013 Series 10 FRS #553
RCE T2's, SPC LCAs -4/2.6 camber JDL 4-2-1 EL, FP and OP, Tuned by Zach@CSG on e85 RR Wilwood Front/Rear Sport BBK, Motul 600 Fluid ARC-8 17x9 SX2 GTs 245s/Koing 17x8 v730's 225's |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Drives: 2018 BRZ
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 992
Thanks: 1,429
Thanked 841 Times in 482 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
How is their wear (how long is "not last as long")? As I said, I'm not really interested in being faster, although being predictable and consistent is a great plus.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Drives: 2018 BRZ
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 992
Thanks: 1,429
Thanked 841 Times in 482 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Been reading some more.
What about Nitto NT01? I know, R-comps for a novice and all that, but they seem to be better than RS4s for track with only slightly increased wear (but better heat tolerance and cycling, which seem to be more important for track work). As I will be running these tires only on the track I'm thinking I can dip into 100TW. They are somewhat more expensive, though. (its sibling the RA1 doesn't come in 215 or 225 so it's out). |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
Some say.....
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2007 Subaru Impreza 2.5i
Location: Kitchener ON
Posts: 498
Thanks: 818
Thanked 313 Times in 176 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Im trying to find my new track tires as well. I'm currently between two already mentioned and another possible contender:
Hankook R-S4 Kumho V730 Maxxis VR-1 I've spent way too much time Googling and still can't make up my indecisive mind. Last edited by BatStig; 03-21-2023 at 12:46 PM. |
![]() |
![]() |
The Following User Says Thank You to BatStig For This Useful Post: | Teseo (03-21-2023) |
![]() |
#9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2022
Drives: 2022 BRZ; 2014 BRZ
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 163
Thanks: 3
Thanked 87 Times in 60 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I've had great luck with the Conti ECForce. It is also an endurance tire, like the RS4, but needs less heat to work well and should last a similar amount of time. My experience is with them on an NA Miata, so heat management and tire life aren't exactly struggles for me, but when I've had them at VIR on a 90F day, they came out of the pits ready and I never noticed them overheating. They should also be a little faster than the RS4 as a bonus.
__________________
|
![]() |
![]() |
The Following User Says Thank You to foshjowler For This Useful Post: | Ohio Enthusiast (03-21-2023) |
![]() |
#10 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,416
Thanks: 18,644
Thanked 16,679 Times in 7,560 Posts
Mentioned: 110 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward." -Oscar Wilde.
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
The Following User Says Thank You to NoHaveMSG For This Useful Post: | Ohio Enthusiast (03-21-2023) |
![]() |
#11 | |
Some say.....
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2007 Subaru Impreza 2.5i
Location: Kitchener ON
Posts: 498
Thanks: 818
Thanked 313 Times in 176 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
I had the Conti's on my wishlist, but unfortunately they're not available in Canada. Shipping and customs take this already pricey tire out my justifiable price range. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#12 | |||
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Drives: 2018 BRZ
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 992
Thanks: 1,429
Thanked 841 Times in 482 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
It's just that it's tempting to get something barely/not street legal as they will only be used on the track. On the other hand, I could use 200TW for spirited drives if I'm not too lazy to swap wheels before/after (I'll be moving to all-season tires for the street after the winters wear out). |
|||
![]() |
![]() |
The Following User Says Thank You to Ohio Enthusiast For This Useful Post: | NoHaveMSG (03-21-2023) |
![]() |
#13 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: '13 Whiteout
Location: San Clemente
Posts: 1,492
Thanks: 496
Thanked 1,242 Times in 673 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to TommyW For This Useful Post: | NoHaveMSG (03-21-2023), Ohio Enthusiast (03-21-2023) |
![]() |
#14 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,416
Thanks: 18,644
Thanked 16,679 Times in 7,560 Posts
Mentioned: 110 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward." -Oscar Wilde.
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
The Following User Says Thank You to NoHaveMSG For This Useful Post: | Ohio Enthusiast (03-21-2023) |
|
|
![]() |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Track Days: HPDE and AutoX | Campo | Arizona | 35 | 07-29-2015 09:22 AM |
AVO owners who HPDE/Track... Any issues? | seven | Forced Induction | 11 | 01-19-2015 11:15 AM |
2014 HPDE and Track Day Schedule | Nihilation | Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting | 2 | 01-10-2014 05:17 PM |
Track/HPDE insurance | CSG Mike | Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting | 6 | 08-06-2013 02:36 AM |
PacNW Track Day/HPDE/School thread | rice_classic | Northwest | 12 | 07-10-2012 09:58 PM |