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I would take Brembo at their word about this seeing as they designed the WRX STI calipers.
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But what I do know for sure is that my front + rear brembo setup behaves no differently to other WRX STI's that i've driven before. Even a couple of buddies who own STI's commented that my brakes feel very "OEM-like". |
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Thank you for the clarification. If only we knew the piston sizes!!!
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Now, Brembo and AP are owned by the same entity (Brembo), but are still competing brands. Technically, AP Racing is a direct competitor to Brembo Racing, which is a separate brand from Brembo. |
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While I do not have the technical know how to prove or disprove the technical reasoning in the article, I cannot help but notice the advertisement in the bottom and the 3k price tag for the upgrade from them.
Hey guys dont use the second hand calipers that fit on your car, because you will die, but instead buy this kit from us.........
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I love this thread. That wordpress "article" is filled with opinions and no facts. They list 30% but don't mention if that is with just swapping the fronts or swapping fronts and rears and with what pad compound front and rear. ABS problems, haha. All ABS cares about is what that wheel speed sensor is telling the ABS computer. You can lock up your brakes and get into ABS with or without the STI calipers. You won't kill yourself if you do the STI swap, and there are plenty of ways to get the air bubbles out with the pistons in proper orientation and the bleeders swapped. Air bubbles can get trapped anywhere in the calipers not just the crossover bar. That is why you are supposed to hit them with a rubber mallet to dislodge the air bubbles to the bleeder location. Brake bias is something that can be adjusted with pad choices or a brake bias adjuster in more track oriented applications.
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For example, the front bias can be somewhat mitigated with a more aggressive rear compound, but then now the rear is working harder. As the rear heats up faster, the Mu also rises faster (typical with most pads), causing, now, a rear brake bias. As the rear continues to work harder, it heats faster than the front, and then overheats much earlier than it should. Now you only have front brakes. How would this constantly changing brake bias benefit a newer driver, who is trying to learn to safely drive on track, when the brakes are changing on him in real time? |
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04-20-2015, 01:41 PM | #41 |
I would be pretty surprised if the tS BRZ used the same brembos as the STI. The brake bias with the full front and rear kit is pretty awful (as noted by those who have actually tracked the full set-up).
I'm someone who can do math, so in this case it's something that checks out on paper and in the real world. Yes, it's mostly fine on the street and you can shift brake bias in other ways, but I'd much rather just run a proper kit (which in some cases is not a ton of money). FWIW, the Brembo front and FHI 2006 WRX 2 pot rear combo is better. - Andrew |
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I only ask because I was heavily contemplating doing this. My buddy has a full set of the 06 4 pot/2pot calipers for me, but because of the rear brake bias issue of doing the full 4/2 pot swap I haven't done anything with them yet, and I was thinking of doing the sti brembo front, and the 2 pot wrx on the rear. |
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