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Old 01-25-2020, 06:20 PM   #29
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but subaru developed the ecu. subaru knows how to tune and tweak ecu's to develop decent power out of the box.
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Old 01-25-2020, 06:20 PM   #30
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What are you using to dilute the water or is it strait from the tap?
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6. Openflash tablet tune, I just started customizing my own tunes for this hardware like 2 years ago, after learning more.
Did all the research on how to remap a car, learnt nothing about how an engine works and make power......
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show me "dyno sheets"!

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Yea, so by default the compressor in the FA20 engine literally provides the air quality of a supercharger and turbo charged engine. Toyota just didn't want to give us a better ecu mapping of the software because their motto is to concentrate on making engines that are more reliable and safe, hence by default of those guide lines buyers suffer on performance output, but if you think about it Toyota saved us money on our insurance policy because they could have easily given us 255 hp if they tweeked the ecu software settings with this FA20 engine without the use of Force inductions air compressors.. So to help us enjoy this gift of an engine investors put out tunning hardware to help market the potential of this car.. Notice how these tunning hardwares were almost released around the same time this car was available to purchase.
You're either a troll, you've just now started to get into the car scene, and/or you're actually 14 and don't own an FR-S and are just making shit up to sound cool.

Please tell me where this so-called "compressor" is in the FA20, and please tell me more about how Toyota didn't have time to tune the software since apparently they were responsible for the development of a Subaru engine.
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Most manufacturers leave it up to the customer to destroy their vehicle.
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Honestly, I'm sure he's waiting for someone to send him a private message asking where to buy the tune, and then will scam the poor bastard who is ignorant enough to believe him.
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"Ah, well I can sell you an engine chip with the tune. It plugs right into the obd2 port and programs automatically"
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Please research "volumetric efficiency" before posting anymore.

On second thought, don't. This is more fun
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Oh boy it's been a while since a troll came along.
We forgot how stupid they sound compared to "some" members posts. Know what I mean?
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Buy the hardware on the ft86 website... Its only about $500 for the hardware.. You can pay someone to help you manipulate the mappings and others software settings that it comes with.. Or you could just look up forums with those whom have YouTube videos and others who give details on how to use the software for performance tunning..

Yup that's why they refused to offer this engine a turbo for soooo many years.. Besides the stock air fuel compression ratio is 12.5/1.0.. Which means for every 12.5 grams of air per sec the engine allows 1.0 gram/sec of fuel for a combustion..
Since the amount of air that can be compressed is set at such a high rate by stock standards. Technically it's already a very considerably high induction of air.. Our stock compression ratio is equivalent to those compression values of a supercharged force inducted engine..
Nothing special about the high compression ratio except that my wallet is empty from buying premium fuel.
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Nothing special about the high compression ratio except that my wallet is empty from buying premium fuel.
if you think that's bad, try dailying a pickup truck.

20 gallons, even at regular cost goes pretty quickly at 5-9 mpg!
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Wait, guys I'm trying to scam any of you.. I'll show you guys a link on how I estimated what my hp should be valued at. This is the manufacturers site of the fuel pump I purchased... It has a fuel injector calculator, it uses other parameters that you can plug in the tab spaces to estimate hp.. I'll post the link with this message, so you can overview it.. You can decide for yourself, as far as tunning we can discuss what I have done. I'll be willing to share it, at that point you can dyno my tunes and discuss your results, I my self would like to know how accurate these calculated values are compared with a dyno. This link is easy to use.. Since I don't have dyno sheets I think its only fare that you guys see how I've estimated my alleged hp values.https://www.deatschwerks.com/fuel-ca...tor-calculator
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There are many mechanical instruments that make a car engine. The throttle body system is responsible for pulling in quantities of air that have to be compressed in order to enter the cylindrical bore and stroke chambers of that particular compartment of the engine.. Hence the throttle body plates rotate to compress air through an air duct casting hole which tubularly loop their way through the valve intake sector to combine with the fuel being mixed, the compressed air ducts are generally smaller in cross sectional area in comparison to the throttle body cross sectional area..

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There are many mechanical instruments that make a car engine. The throttle body system is responsible for pulling in quantities of air that have to be compressed in order to enter the cylindrical bore and stroke chambers of that particular compartment of the engine.. Hence the throttle body plates rotate to compress air through perforated casting holes which tubularly loop their way through the valve intake sector to combine with the fuel being mixed, the compressed air ducts are generally smaller in cross sectional area in comparison to the throttle body cross sectional area..


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