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Old 04-05-2015, 03:54 PM   #1317
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You made the right choice. S2000 is an amazing car.
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:32 PM   #1318
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Would have gotten an S2K w/o question if I had a garage.
Shit gets stolen off them too much.
Too many tops slashed, seats stolen, lights stolen, wheels stolen, steering wheels stolen, body panels fucked up etc...

Fuck people... These fucks manage to ruin the ownership experience of what is otherwise a perfect car.

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Old 04-05-2015, 04:50 PM   #1319
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S2k is just a prefect car as it come. Just make sure u have another car to drive around and put s2k for leisure only. 👍 Brz is a tuner/modder car, God u can think of something to upgrade everyday...
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Old 04-06-2015, 06:20 AM   #1320
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I had a hard time moving a S2000 or any car for that matter with light clutches. I couldn't feel the engagement point period.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:43 PM   #1321
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I had a hard time moving a S2000 or any car for that matter with light clutches. I couldn't feel the engagement point period.
Really? That's the exact opposite for most people - heavy ass clutches are painful to deal with for most part since it's so easy to overshoot the grab point and then stall.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:49 PM   #1322
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I had a hard time moving a S2000 or any car for that matter with light clutches. I couldn't feel the engagement point period.
Huh? The FR-S clutch is wayyy lighter than the S2K clutch.
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Old 04-06-2015, 02:16 PM   #1323
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Huh? The FR-S clutch is wayyy lighter than the S2K clutch.
Really? I found them more or less the same except the engagement point was awkwardly high. I stalled the BRZ when backing it up, S2k not even once though I had some timing issues shifting into 2nd. I think I was too quick on clutch release due to a habit with my existing DD.
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Old 04-06-2015, 03:02 PM   #1324
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Really? I found them more or less the same except the engagement point was awkwardly high. I stalled the BRZ when backing it up, S2k not even once though I had some timing issues shifting into 2nd. I think I was too quick on clutch release due to a habit with my existing DD.
Way lighter was maybe an exaggeration, but it is definitely lighter...... and yes the engagement point is awkwardly high. Coming from the S2K, I didn't like it... but I'm sure I could get used to it relatively easily given more time driving it.
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Old 04-06-2015, 06:00 PM   #1325
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I had a hard time moving a S2000 or any car for that matter with light clutches. I couldn't feel the engagement point period.
We can help you fix that.

I use a heavier clutch myself.
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Old 04-06-2015, 06:00 PM   #1326
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Huh? The FR-S clutch is wayyy lighter than the S2K clutch.
An aging (stock) s2k clutch gets stiffer, but stock for stock, the FRS is lighter.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:30 PM   #1327
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An aging (stock) s2k clutch gets stiffer, but stock for stock, the FRS is lighter.
Interesting - is that strictly a function of the mechanical bits wearing out? The one I am about to own has a very light one but has barely any mileage on it (< 40,400 miles) so I can't say.

The BRZ I test drove had a stiffer pedal in my opinion but then again, it had 6 miles on the odometer (dealer let me 'test drive' it).
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Interesting - is that strictly a function of the mechanical bits wearing out? The one I am about to own has a very light one but has barely any mileage on it (< 40,400 miles) so I can't say.

The BRZ I test drove had a stiffer pedal in my opinion but then again, it had 6 miles on the odometer (dealer let me 'test drive' it).
The slave cylinder piston gets worn and rough after enough time. A quick fix is to polish the piston and regrease the cyclinder and clutch fork. Real easy to do.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:12 AM   #1329
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Interesting - is that strictly a function of the mechanical bits wearing out? The one I am about to own has a very light one but has barely any mileage on it (< 40,400 miles) so I can't say.

The BRZ I test drove had a stiffer pedal in my opinion but then again, it had 6 miles on the odometer (dealer let me 'test drive' it).
Yes it is!

You'll notice it takes more pressure in the "middle" of the clutch, to move it, than near the bottom or top as well.

For a newer driver with a heavy pressure plate, the observation is that it takes a "ton" of force to press the pedal down, but once its down, it's easy to hold down. The clutch pedal is non-linear, unlike a traditional coil spring; they use diaphragm springs.
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I had a hard time moving a S2000 or any car for that matter with light clutches. I couldn't feel the engagement point period.
This will take care of it on the FR-S. 40 bucks and less than an hour to install.

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