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Old 01-01-2021, 08:35 PM   #43
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We have a pretty good idea of what the front will look like based on the camo wrapped protos we've seen.



It's a really good look. I just want to see the damn thing materialized already.

Hopefully I can snag one used in red if I don't go gen1.
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really love gen 1 but i feel like the new 86 in person will look sharp!
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Is it just me or does the new front end look vaguely familiar?
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If that render is accurate, the fangs might be returning! Slightly smaller fangs, but still cool.



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Microchip shortage possibly delaying new models

This was news a few weeks ago in the audiophile community. AKM in Japan had a massive fire that wiped out most of their production capacity. I had only recently purchased an outboard DAC using their latest proprietary chips. https://www.converge.com/resources/n...-factory-fire/

Being one of many OEM producers, perhaps this is one of the reasons for insufficient production capacity elsewhere.

It appears that mobile device companies have vertical production whereas automotive requires outsourcing for touch display ICs.

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/why-...x-and-sti-most
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Several car manufacturers (VW, Honda, Ford, others) are already suffering from chip shortage, with some reducing production (by cutting shifts or halting production for several days) - https://www.dw.com/en/computer-chip-...ion/a-56224486
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Isn’t that a trip that’s where we are in time?
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Nah. Material famine affects all industries.
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my company/customers have been running into oddball stock shortages for the last year. a few more shortages aren't all that different then that.
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it also heavily affected some computer companies too. i think all this electronic components affected many many industries in the past year or two. i think one slow down affects a bunch of others.
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My industry is just plain sold out of stuff for this year already. If you didn't place orders last year you will probably be fkd by June this year.
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So... I work for a semiconductor manufacturer...

The basics are that factories or "fabs" as we call them take about $5 billion dollars to build (plus about 2 years), and we try to run them at over 90% capacity (the exact number is a secret) to maintain desired operating margins.

This is a bit of a perfect storm: the Covid lockdown and work from home situation drove a huge spike in consumer electronics... (laptops, notepads, TVs, game consoles, etc) and the manufacturing base was running near capacity. The result of supply shortage was completely predictable. During supply shortage the highest volume/price customers win out (hint: it isn't automotive; check quarterly earning reports if you want to figure out who really drove the volume)

Unfortunately, no one wants to commit billions of dollars to react to a spike, and in truth it would not come on line for a couple years anyway. It is a bit of a game of chicken... trying to get commitments to justify huge investments, but if you build too much capacity then prices crater due to oversupply.

The supply/demand ratio needs to equalize (e.g. the spike and pipeline bubbles need to play out).
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So... I work for a semiconductor manufacturer...

The basics are that factories or "fabs" as we call them take about $5 billion dollars to build (plus about 2 years), and we try to run them at over 90% capacity (the exact number is a secret) to maintain desired operating margins.

This is a bit of a perfect storm: the Covid lockdown and work from home situation drove a huge spike in consumer electronics... (laptops, notepads, TVs, game consoles, etc) and the manufacturing base was running near capacity. The result of supply shortage was completely predictable. During supply shortage the highest volume/price customers win out (hint: it isn't automotive; check quarterly earning reports if you want to figure out who really drove the volume)

Unfortunately, no one wants to commit billions of dollars to react to a spike, and in truth it would not come on line for a couple years anyway. It is a bit of a game of chicken... trying to get commitments to justify huge investments, but if you build too much capacity then prices crater due to oversupply.

The supply/demand ratio needs to equalize (e.g. the spike and pipeline bubbles need to play out).
Exactly right here, and to echo nextcar's POV from a OEM standpoint this is the same reality from SMT to Final Assembly for parts. Run-in rate for manufacturing has to achieve a threshold for ideal operations (equipment efficiency for the metric) to meet the daily production requirements to support the costs for part sourcing, labor, and manufacturing time. Most of last 5 months, OEM's are requiring high demands to meet their weekly supply goals knowing that Suppliers are being stringent with how many parts they can supply.

Just as a heads-up, there is a lot of demand for CPU's, high voltage controllers, Capacitors, and custom parts that OEM's require the Supplier to use from their collection of authorized inventory. If you are needing Repair parts or have a car in the shop waiting for a part, that is the reason why parts are limited and becoming more expensive. Production Contracts right now are a hot commodity to achieve goals for OEM's.
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