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Old 06-25-2016, 12:50 PM   #1
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Velox vs Raceseng Camber Plates

Been toying with the idea of adding camber plates to my car. The -1.5 from camber bolts just isn't doing it for me anymore. I have the SPC bolt on the bottom, I know I can add the crash bolt to the upper lobe, but this isn't a route I really want to take.

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the Velox/ft86SF plates. I know the Raceseng plates are top notch and add caster adjustment. I just don't think I will ever adjust caster. Is the approx $300 price difference worth it if all I'm doing is adjusting camber?

The car is a 1x per month autoX and maybe 2x a year track day.

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Old 06-25-2016, 01:37 PM   #2
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They both are fine.
I bought raceseng due reasons like 1) i'm buying it once, why not get something offering most, even if i don't need it right now; 2) i liked customisation options for broad range of coilovers if/when i'll switch. But 1) no caster adjustment on velox's .. that might be also good point, as one less thing to fail/stronger construction; 2) price difference really is significant enough for many, not just few dollars less. Hmm, though then again, if budget matters a lot, why not go with camber bolts & slotting struts?

Go with whichever by whatever reasons matter more to you, they both should do the job and are quality products. Imho no need to go for lengthy discussion of why one may be slightly better and by what slightly worse then another.
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Racerxfab makes front lower control arm that has camber and caster adjustment. Might be a better solution for you

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The Raceseng plates do both for less $$$
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The Raceseng plates do both for less $$$
I see 2 on the Racer-X site:

http://racerxfabrication.com/frs-brz...r-control-arms

http://racerxfabrication.com/frs-brz...r-control-arms

One is $550, one is $680. I'd say they are both within the range of the Raceseng plates. Not sure if there would be any advantage in going for these instead of camber plates.



The Raceseng plates only actually give 1 degree of positive caster over stock. I know this can be an advantage in auto-x, not sure about the track. Not really sure how much of a difference just 1 degree of positive caster actually makes, though.

Both are supposed to be great quality, but the Raceseng is basically twice the price. I would say the only reason the Raceseng may be worth it to you is because you are doing monthly auto-x events. Assuming you care about competing, not just going for fun, etc.
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Im going to to do plates over Front LCA because I like having the adjustability. I would like front camber to be around -2 for Daily Driving and bump it up to around -3 on autocross days. Plates are quick and easy to adjust.

Its not about being competitive, I'm not on that level. I just want the car to behave the way I want it to when doing runs.

I will probably get the Raceseng plates. I don't need caster adjustment now, but maybe later. Im all about having something I can grow into and doing it right the first time.

I make my purchase next month and check back in to let ya know which one I went with. Along with a review.

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Im going to to do plates over Front LCA because I like having the adjustability. I would like front camber to be around -2 for Daily Driving and bump it up to around -3 on autocross days. Plates are quick and easy to adjust.

Its not about being competitive, I'm not on that level. I just want the car to behave the way I want it to when doing runs.

I will probably get the Raceseng plates. I don't need caster adjustment now, but maybe later. Im all about having something I can grow into and doing it right the first time.

I make my purchase next month and check back in to let ya know which one I went with. Along with a review.

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Keep in mind that changing camber will definitely change toe, so you might want to have a way to accurately measure toe so you don't end up driving around with toe daily.

You'd be better off with -3* of camber and zero front toe than -2* and some toe for daily driving tire wear.
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IMO the big advantage to Raceseng is adaptability to different suspension packages.

If you're not planning on changing dampers or spring sizes in the future save the $$$ and try the Velox.
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Well, Velox's has listed compatibility with B6/8/14/16 Bilsteins, V1/3 KWs, RCE Zero &2, stock, ST, Konis Yellow, so imho versatility wise Velox camplates are fine too.
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I can't speak to Velox but have ran Eibach's that were integrated to my R2s and Raceseng's. Camber is super important on the FRS/BRZ, that alone is likely worth the difference. Raceseng's quality is top notch, all the component parts are of the highest grade. If you want a total solution, Raceseng is the way to go. If you're budget conscious, I'm sure the Velox ones will do enough for the money.
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Well, Velox's has listed compatibility with B6/8/14/16 Bilsteins, V1/3 KWs, RCE Zero &2, stock, ST, Konis Yellow, so imho versatility wise Velox camplates are fine too.
OEM top hats are also compatible with those too.
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Been toying with the idea of adding camber plates to my car. The -1.5 from camber bolts just isn't doing it for me anymore. I have the SPC bolt on the bottom, I know I can add the crash bolt to the upper lobe, but this isn't a route I really want to take.

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the Velox/ft86SF plates. I know the Raceseng plates are top notch and add caster adjustment. I just don't think I will ever adjust caster. Is the approx $300 price difference worth it if all I'm doing is adjusting camber?

The car is a 1x per month autoX and maybe 2x a year track day.

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Contact @Racecomp Engineering for their camber plate option.
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Camber is super important on the FRS/BRZ, that alone is likely worth the difference.
Did you mean caster?
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Did you mean caster?
No, not at all. It's camber that's the most important for the front struts, big improvements to grip during cornering will be found as you move past 2.5 degrees.

He may have been talking about caster, but I will take the ideal amount of camber over the ideal amount of caster any day of the week.
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