4th gen ND Mazda MX-5 Miata

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Bristecom

Well yeah but then again those cars probably should have cost that much considering the technology they had. My Eclipse was only $26k when new with AWD, LSD, turbo, and every luxury you could think of at the time (I bought it used). But that's a good point about the used market exploding. We were left with some pretty nice used options afterwards but now they are getting too old. So this time around I would like to see more simple, low cost options such as:

Scion FR-S (4 seat coupe FR NA 4U-GSE 4 cyl. engine) - $25000
Scion MR-S (2 seat conv. MR NA 2ZR-FAE 4 cyl. engine) - $24000
Mazda MX-5 (2 seat conv. FR NA SkyActive-G 4 cyl. engine) - $24000
Mazda RX-9 (4 seat coupe FR NA SkyActive-Rotary engine) - $26000

Wouldn't Toyota/Scion charge more for the convertible "MR-S." You know the "convertible tax." Not trying to flame, but convertibles tend to be more expensive for a similarly equipped model, right?

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Wouldn't Toyota/Scion charge more for the convertible "MR-S." You know the "convertible tax." Not trying to flame, but convertibles tend to be more expensive for a similarly equipped model, right?

Yeah, maybe. I was just going off of the price of the old MRS which was only 23k. And since it's just an inline 4 with a transaxle like a front engine, and smaller with only 2 seats, I figured it could probably be made cheaper. But it's the same engine as in the new Lotus Elise so it could be made like an Elise but cost half the price. It would be a potent little car!

[serialk11r]

Inflation is a bitch, I can't see a lower than FRS price...

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Inflation is a bitch, I can't see a lower than FRS price...

OK, make it $25k then. :P They were just general estimates of how much they could cost.

[NastyNate]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

The MX5 back in the neighborhood of 2200lbs doesn't need 200hp. That would be...a little stupid. Certainly fun though. I'm just saying it wouldn't need 200hp to compete. Americans have problems with tiny engines; though perhaps a tiny turbo engine would alleviate that concern. First lets see how the 500 Abarth does with that formula.

I've got an '05 MazdaSpeed Miata. With the things done I'm about 220ish and 2400 since ading a roll bar and my fat self. It's a total blast while surprising a lot of mustang/camaros. Now I just need ecu, new turbo, wheels/tires, lower gearing and it's done. Full boost hits and I spin 1st through 3rd!

[Bristecom]

BTW, this is what happens when the normal Toyota designers are asked to make a "fun" car: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jlpvina...n/photostream/

[MiguelAE86]

Originally Posted by Bristecom

BTW, this is what happens when the normal Toyota designers are asked to make a "fun" car: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jlpvina...n/photostream/

Oh god...

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Bristecom

I really liked the Furai concept even though it was a race car. It would be pretty sweet if they had similar styling for the RX-9.

This really deserved to be the RX-9. Styling wise, the RX deserves nothing less.

Originally Posted by Bristecom

So this time around I would like to see more simple, low cost options such as:

Scion FR-S (4 seat coupe FR NA 4U-GSE 4 cyl. engine) - $25000
Scion MR-S (2 seat conv. MR NA 2ZR-FAE 4 cyl. engine) - $24000
Mazda MX-5 (2 seat conv. FR NA SkyActive-G 4 cyl. engine) - $24000
Mazda RX-9 (4 seat coupe FR NA SkyActive-Rotary engine) - $26000

Not going to see an MR-2 and FR-s at the same price point. Certainly not under the same brand. I think next time around the MR will depart from the 3rd gen the way the 2nd departed from the first. Bigger, more refined, heavier (unfortunately) Probably will be V6 and hybrid

Originally Posted by Bristecom

BTW, this is what happens when the normal Toyota designers are asked to make a "fun" car: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jlpvina...n/photostream/

That is....... futuristic, not fun.

I think this is more their idea of something "fun and affordable"

[quik1987]

According to a recent report, the next-generation Mazda MX-5 will offer a number of personalization options.
MINI and Fiat have been pioneers in this area, but Mazda is a newcomer to the vehicle customization. However, Akira Tamatani told What Car? Mazda is considering more options "to help [build] a customer's relationship with the car." Besides offering more variety, the options will likely pad the automaker's bottom line.
As we have previously reported, the 2014 / 2015 MX-5 is expected to weigh 100 kg (220 lbs) less than the current model and feature a turbocharged 1.3-liter four-cylinder engine with approximately 200 hp (149 kW / 203 PS). Little else is known about the model, but it will be built in Hiroshima, Japan and there will be an Alfa Romeo variant.

[serialk11r]

lol where did they get the 200hp 1.3L turbo from? It's not that special in terms of specific power but I don't believe it.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

lol where did they get the 200hp 1.3L turbo from? It's not that special in terms of specific power but I don't believe it.

Agreed. I read fairly recently that they were having trouble getting adequate horsepower out of the small turbocharged engine and would not be using the 1.3. I guess at this point it is all speculation. We will just have to wait and see what Mazda comes up with.

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by Rampage

Agreed. I read fairly recently that they were having trouble getting adequate horsepower out of the small turbocharged engine and would not be using the 1.3. I guess at this point it is all speculation. We will just have to wait and see what Mazda comes up with.

Not only that, 200hp is a fuckton of power for a car like this. They could get away with much much less, and not to mention it would be an insurance liability.

[n2oinferno]

So 2220 lbs and 200 horsepower?

Holy crap, that'll be a rocket of a Miata off the floor. And I'm thinking if a tuner can squeeze 250 whp out of the engine, you'll be looking at a better power:weight ratio than the 5.0 Mustang GT.

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

So 2220 lbs and 200 horsepower?

Holy crap, that'll be a rocket of a Miata off the floor. And I'm thinking if a tuner can squeeze 250 whp out of the engine, you'll be looking at a better power:weight ratio than the 5.0 Mustang GT.

Exactly, it's not going to happen :P