Should I go AT or MT? - Page 7 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Tcoat · 01-09-2017, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GTHachiRoku

I ended up selling it due to the expense (was chomping at Porsche territory there), horrible fuel economy + tiny gas tank, less storage than the twins in the trunk, and it was eating through tires and brakes like you wouldn't believe haha.

Exactly the reasons I am not driving one today! I was on the fence for a long time but it was a pile of money for me to throw away after 5 years and the fuel economy would have been nasty for the amount I drive.

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Ultramaroon · 01-09-2017, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mrg666

So you think buyers remorse can only happen with AT? MT or AT recommendation is completely personal preference and it is not worth more than 2c how many times ever you repeat it. If you are done repeating your point over and over, I want to thank you.

I can't force you to go back and read the thread carefully.

I will continue to make my point as long as I have the desire to correct others' misinterpretation and misrepresentation of my intended advice. You have done just that by asking me the above and then telling me to shut up about it.

Once again specifically for you now, if OP is MT-curious enough to start a thread about it here, I maintain he should either go for it or continue wondering. And yes, maybe he'll regret having bought the MT but he will have satisfied his curiosity and he will never regret having learned how to drive a stick even if he doesn't give a shit about it later.

Make sense, or would you like to argue some more? Sheesh.

Ultramaroon · 01-09-2017, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Actually, that is very situational. The 86 is a very practical/rational car depending on your situation.

For example, in my case I went looking for a sporty, fun to drive, commuter car that got decent (as in much better than my Suburban or Astro) gas mileage. It also needed to be able to stop on the way home and pick up groceries or make a small Sam's/Costco run. I also wanted to have something MomHawk and I could take on a couple's weekend or longer vacation.

The 86 fits that in spades. Very practical.

Well, yeah. There's that. I'm just being hyperbolic to emphasize the point of choosing a twin over a corolla.

eFRS · 01-09-2017, 01:47 PM

I went with MT just because my other car is an AT and I wanted something different.

Keep in mind, this is my FIRST MT car and I am loving everything minute when I'm in it.

darthpnoy1984 · 01-09-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

Does it look like a Ferrari to you? It's not even dual clutch it's a standard flappy shift auto , also nor is it an AMG anything. It's a little 4 banger sports coupe. It needs and should have manual so troll on that

See that's the hypocrisy of you Manual elists have if your gonna attack the AT of the car please include the RC-F, IS-F and GS-F as well, anything without a clutch I don't care if it's PDK, DCT or whatever tech it is. It's an automatic period. So quit kidding yourself with the double standards already it's getting hilarious ya know.

spike021 · 01-09-2017, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I can't force you to go back and read the thread carefully.

I will continue to make my point as long as I have the desire to correct others' misinterpretation and misrepresentation of my intended advice. You have done just that by asking me the above and then telling me to shut up about it.

Once again specifically for you now, if OP is MT-curious enough to start a thread about it here, I maintain he should either go for it or continue wondering. And yes, maybe he'll regret having bought the MT but he will have satisfied his curiosity and he will never regret having learned how to drive a stick even if he doesn't give a shit about it later.

Make sense, or would you like to argue some more? Sheesh.

This is basically why I went MT with my BRZ when probably 90% of people I know were saying "oh why would you get MT when AT is so much easier and normal?"

I was MT-curious enough.

I think AT sounds solid. Just browse this thread and the rest on this forum about it. Many people have enjoyed the AT and most who don't are people who prefer MT anyway (from what I've seen).

@ OP I say go for it and get the MT unless you have a solid reason for not wanting to learn it.

FR-Sky · 01-09-2017, 02:49 PM

if you give me a R35, and FRS/BRZ, I will still choose FRS/BRZ,
This is how much passion I have for MT. ^_~

P.S I have a lot friends driving AT FRS/BRZ are regretting now, but they can't trade for a MT because they are still on finance.

Dadhawk · 01-09-2017, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

See that's the hypocrisy of you Manual elists have if your gonna attack the AT of the car please include the RC-F, IS-F and GS-F as well, anything without a clutch I don't care if it's PDK, DCT or whatever tech it is. It's an automatic period. So quit kidding yourself with the double standards already it's getting hilarious ya know.

I'm with you on this one. If the whole argument behind avoiding the AT is that you want to be more engaged by having a clutch, then logically it has to include any tech that removes the third pedal.

Of course, I have the (dis)advantage that when in manual mode I can can (and do on occasion) use the 3rd (dead) pedal as a clutch. Memory muscle is a terrible thing sometimes.

darthpnoy1984 · 01-09-2017, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I'm with you on this one. If the whole argument behind avoiding the AT is that you want to be more engaged by having a clutch, then logically it has to include any tech that removes the third pedal.

Of course, I have the (dis)advantage that when in manual mode I can still can (and do on occasion) use the 3rd (dead) pedal as a clutch. Memory muscle is a terrible thing sometimes.

Exactly the comedy of these manual holier than thou attitude of children just gets funnier and funnier by the day. Lets grow up folks celebrate choice.

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RichardsFRS · 01-09-2017, 04:26 PM

LOL whatever get an auto and you'll hate it. I've had both and in a a little 4 banger manual is the only way. LOL manual mode...OK

fitcious · 01-09-2017, 04:51 PM

I swear there's been like a million threads on AT vs MT or Should I get AT or MT or Which is better, AT or MT...etc etc.

darthpnoy1984 · 01-09-2017, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fitcious

I swear there's been like a million threads on AT vs MT or Should I get AT or MT or Which is better, AT or MT...etc etc.

Its because people like RichardsFRS wants to shove his believes down everyones throats here and feels salty towards AT users

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guybo · 01-09-2017, 06:06 PM

I have no prob with people getting a AT, but for the OP who's on the fence I say go MT all the way.

As for the current semi-auto cars out there.... They are AT. They can be set to auto shift and have no clutch. They are AT. Again, MT is less about choosing your gear and more about that 3rd pedal. This is why I own a FRS and not a Ferrari 488

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FR-Sky Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 2013 FR-S 10 series [755] Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,189 Thanks: 385 Thanked 390 Times in 264 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	if you give me a R35, and FRS/BRZ, I will still choose FRS/BRZ, This is how much passion I have for MT. ^_~ P.S I have a lot friends driving AT FRS/BRZ are regretting now, but they can't trade for a MT because they are still on finance. Last edited by FR-Sky; 01-09-2017 at 03:00 PM.

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RichardsFRS Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 2013 Pearl White 6MT Location: Gainesville Ga Posts: 938 Thanks: 5 Thanked 356 Times in 246 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	LOL whatever get an auto and you'll hate it. I've had both and in a a little 4 banger manual is the only way. LOL manual mode...OK __________________ Back from bancation in Banopolis where I laid on the beach with a beer between my legs. I at night and ate at sun rise

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eFRS Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: '15 Halo MT FRS Location: NJ Posts: 62 Thanks: 16 Thanked 18 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I went with MT just because my other car is an AT and I wanted something different. Keep in mind, this is my FIRST MT car and I am loving everything minute when I'm in it.

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fitcious Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: USA Posts: 922 Thanks: 283 Thanked 393 Times in 205 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I swear there's been like a million threads on AT vs MT or Should I get AT or MT or Which is better, AT or MT...etc etc.

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guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have no prob with people getting a AT, but for the OP who's on the fence I say go MT all the way. As for the current semi-auto cars out there.... They are AT. They can be set to auto shift and have no clutch. They are AT. Again, MT is less about choosing your gear and more about that 3rd pedal. This is why I own a FRS and not a Ferrari 488

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