Bmw 230i(G42) vs BRZ/GR86

[Hiroba Games]

I mean for my country it will retain its value, Turkish people love German cars there are 15k used bmws available for sale right now but only 193 subarus on sale.

[Hiroba Games]

Yes we can find bmw easily as you are, i actually think like you bmw is gonna another normal sporty car but in the other hand if i can keep my twin it will be a amazing car in 10 year once it sales are over. But i should not sell it before production is over. Also it will be cheaper to maintain.

[Hiroba Games]

Same here man like i said there is only 5 cars on sale right now and subaru sold it here itself. If i bougt GR86 from europe like you did it will probably an only car in Turkey for a while

[boy_racer]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

These cars are very rare in Turkey and Greece. In my country there is a BRZ which is the show car of Subaru Greece and the other is mines which I brought it from Germany. Toyota was able to sell a few more, but I would say not more than 20 cars in total.

Official Greek sales are :
GT86 18
BRZ 5

There was some months ago a red import brz on an island for sale ,and i've seen around 6 imported GT86s ,so total number must be around 30 for both!

No 2020 model until now but there are 7 facelift cars (4 GT86 and 3 BRZ).

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by boy_racer

Official Greek sales are :
GT86 18
BRZ 5

There was some months ago a red import brz on an island for sale ,and i've seen around 6 imported GT86s ,so total number must be around 30 for both!

No 2020 model until now but there are 7 facelift cars (4 GT86 and 3 BRZ).

Are all these with Greek license plates? The information of about 2-3 BRZ's in total was from Subaru Greece. They told me this a year ago.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Hiroba Games

Same here man like i said there is only 5 cars on sale right now and subaru sold it here itself. If i bougt GR86 from europe like you did it will probably an only car in Turkey for a while

There have been 5 or 6 guys from Turkey on this form over the years. They all sort of disappeared a couple of years ago though.

[boy_racer]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Are all these with Greek license plates? The information of about 2-3 BRZ's in total was from Subaru Greece. They told me this a year ago.

Yes Greek license plates,i don't know about the red brz though.

[Hiroba Games]

Used brz cost around 80k $ people cant buy those type of cars anymore. We have bmw 520i or mercedes e180 which has 1.6l turbo charged engine and it cost around 50k$ slightly used ones so people choose premium cars and kept the money for themself. I cant blame them if you are not looking for a performance it is a better choice. I now have one of those cars it is slow but man it is luxurious. It is gonna be hard choice but thanks to everyone i got opinion on bmws, this forum is very helpfull.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by Hiroba Games

@daiheadjai I was wondering how the car felt like. I liked the feeling of brz it felt like a feather it moves like a part of your body direct feeling of brz was awesome. I was not expecting the bmw the feel same with that weight but if its even close, that is fine for me. Also last bmw i used was 2013 x1 and that steering wheel feeling is worst i ever used it felt so heavy without any connection to wheels. I cant compare those cars i know that is why i am asking you guys. Also i wont be able to test twins too, i will export it myself, man you guys living the car guys dream there

You can certainly feel it's a heavier car - taller too. Pretty good sightlines/visibility though (lots of glass)
The straight six is lovely to wind out, and is very smooth.
The shifter and clutch were OK - clutch is probably as vague as the BRZ clutch was, but the shifter is definitely better in the 86/BRZ in terms of feel (I don't think BMW is known for shifter feel anyways).

Steering felt tremendously-heavy at low speeds (almost excessively), but felt much better once at speed (though it could be because of the aftermarket wheels on the car I tested).

I think of it like a nicer, grown-up and softer BRZ.

[Kona61]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

You can certainly feel it's a heavier car - taller too. Pretty good sightlines/visibility though (lots of glass)
The straight six is lovely to wind out, and is very smooth.
The shifter and clutch were OK - clutch is probably as vague as the BRZ clutch was, but the shifter is definitely better in the 86/BRZ in terms of feel (I don't think BMW is known for shifter feel anyways).

Steering felt tremendously-heavy at low speeds (almost excessively), but felt much better once at speed (though it could be because of the aftermarket wheels on the car I tested).

I think of it like a nicer, grown-up and softer BRZ.

Wait 128i with a 6 cyl? So you’re talking about a E82 with a N52? Those were from the last good years of BMW and drive absolutely nothing like the new ones.

[Arthur-A]

I've just looked at curb weight of G42 and G20. How come a smaller coupe 220i is heavier than a bigger sedan 330i? This is ridiculous.
BTW, 1445 kg/3186 lbs is quite reasonable for 330i though, I thought they are heavier.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Arthur-A

I've just looked at curb weight of G42 and G20. How come a smaller coupe 220i is heavier than a bigger sedan 330i? This is ridiculous.
BTW, 1445 kg/3186 lbs is quite reasonable for 330i though, I thought they are heavier.

The G20 330i weighs 3580lbs, which is more than what the 335i weighed 10 years ago. The 328i (330i’s equivalent) weighed just 3350lbs back then. The new cars are pigs.

[Poogchomp]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

The G20 330i weighs 3580lbs, which is more than what the 335i weighed 10 years ago. The 328i (330i’s equivalent) weighed just 3350lbs back then. The new cars are pigs.

They also look like pigs too.

[Arthur-A]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

The G20 330i weighs 3580lbs, which is more than what the 335i weighed 10 years ago. The 328i (330i’s equivalent) weighed just 3350lbs back then. The new cars are pigs.

I looked through various websites that list car specs and everywhere the numbers are different, lol. BMW website is confusing, couldn't find specs page, everything leads to a configurator. Is there a source that lists accurate data?