|
Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions Discuss all other cars and automotive news here. |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
10-15-2015, 12:14 AM | #85 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Nevermorange FRS
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,160
Thanks: 755
Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts
Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
|
Budget track to me =/= anything with an engine swap.
Reason: Time = money. Making things complicated either takes more time, costs more money or both. Be careful, our attraction to "the shiny object" is powerful and it can lead one quickly away from being on track to being stuck on jack stands really fast. Stay strong and be diligent to avoid vehicles that are garage-queens, time-vacuums, money pits etc. And remember this when it comes to the race track: Speed = money^2. Basically, the faster you go, the cost of doing so grows exponentially. Example: My race car is that white CRX posted earlier. An average racing weekend is $1000/weekend (all-in and amortized). So a race season is $8-15k. This year it more because I built a motor, transmission and then rolled the car so there's that. My friend races a WRX with 3x the horsepower. It does lap times that are ~10 seconds faster. Do you know what he spends to operate the car for 60 minutes on track? $1800 just-to-run-it. That figure accounts for brake/tire/engine/trans wear. Tire budgets, engine and drivetrain builds are ridiculous. So his race weekends all-in and amortized to include over all costs, towing, entry fees, test days etc, are closer to $4500/weekend. Just to go 10 measly seconds faster. So he's not going 4x faster, but he's spending more than 4x as much. So keep that in mind when applying cars to the track. And it's not just going faster, it's also the brand of car. I run faster than many of the PRO3 cars (aka: Spec E30) and they're spending 3x as much as I do on their cars yet I'm passing half of their field. Part of the reason is that every part labeled "BMW" costs whole bunches more than equivalent part labeled "Honda" or "Mazda". I did a FULL build on my D16. New valve guides, machine work, blue-print/balance, pistons, seals blah blah blah.. The whole damn thing to the limit the rule book.. Spent less $2k and it'll last me 3-4 race season before I need to "freshen" it up. The Transmission was about the same (New FD, New synchros, bearings and Plate LSD) and it will go 3 season as well. A K-motor will cost you 3 times that and will last you half that (YMMV). So yeah.. Remember the word BUDGET track car and avoid the shiny object.
__________________
SCCA T4 - FRS
|
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to rice_classic For This Useful Post: | Carlysh (10-19-2015), Icanfaptothis86 (10-15-2015), juliog (10-15-2015), Model Citizen (10-15-2015), strat61caster (10-18-2015) |
10-15-2015, 11:53 AM | #86 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Drives: '12 C63 P31, '23 GRC
Location: NC
Posts: 3,200
Thanks: 2,935
Thanked 2,072 Times in 1,185 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Track Cars.. On a Budget.
I'm looking to form a ChumpCar team with a few friends in the area and we've concluded that the best car to get for this series is a 92-93 Integra. Lightweight, dead reliable engine with decent power and a very favorable MPV ranking.
Anyone have an opinion on this? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Current: 2023 GRC Circuit Edition, 2012 C63 AMG P31
Past: (2) 2000 MR2 Spyder, 2017 GTI Sport, 2006 Porsche Cayman S, Supercharged 2013 BRZ-L, 2007 Honda S2000, 1992 Integra GS-R |
10-18-2015, 07:59 PM | #87 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Nevermorange FRS
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,160
Thanks: 755
Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts
Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
SCCA T4 - FRS
|
|
10-18-2015, 08:55 PM | #88 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 WRB Subaru BRZ 6MT
Location: Fort Mill, SC
Posts: 272
Thanks: 46
Thanked 72 Times in 58 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Chump is a bit more competitive |
|
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Info For Track guys TMG race cars | steve99 | AFRICA | 1 | 06-15-2015 02:23 PM |
Daily Driver + Autocross/Track Car build on a Budget | ToyoburuBRZ | Member's Car Journals | 29 | 12-19-2014 09:32 AM |
About track cars' final drive ratio | immo | Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting | 4 | 09-23-2014 09:04 AM |
EU plans remote track and kill for cars | SeanBlader | Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions | 2 | 01-31-2014 04:58 PM |
anyone else in the southwest track their cars> | gmookher | Southwest | 8 | 10-31-2012 12:44 PM |