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Dadhawk · 02-02-2023, 03:22 PM

The current "mystery of the day" regarding the LYRIQ. Cadillac Canada (and later Cadillac USA) posted the range for the 2024 AWD and RWD models. The AWD has a projected range only 1 mile less than the RWD only model.

Fantastic if true. Unfortunately there is no explanation how you add @250lbs, don't increase the battery, and run this close. GM has been relatively accurate with their estimated ranges in the past.

I'm thinking magic fairy dust at this point. Th 2024 is supposed to be introduced by next Friday, and those of us with confirmed orders will receive a link to convert from MY23 to MY24.

86league · 02-02-2023, 04:34 PM

Have you looked at insurance for the Lyriq? Wondering if it will have a price premium vs a "comparable" vehicle - which I don't know what that would be. High end XT6 maybe?

I've seen reports that EV's are generally more expensive to insure - and I know Tesla offered their own insurance as a result.

Just curious - one of these days I'll maybe get an EV...

Dadhawk · 02-02-2023, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 86league

Have you looked at insurance for the Lyriq?

It's difficult to say what it would be by itself since I have multiple vehicles, but adding it to my USAA policy will be about $1,600 a year. The FRS right now is costing about $1,400 a year.

Dadhawk · 02-03-2023, 12:49 PM

Well, here's a surprising and unexpected change. the Department of Revenue, after being petitioned by both GM and Tesla, has changed their policy and are now using the EPA classifications for vehicles to determine eligibility for the tax credit incentive.

This means the LYRIQ and certain Tesla vehicles previously classified as "cars" eligible for the $55,000 limit now fall under the $80,000 truck/suv limit.

Dadhawk · 02-09-2023, 01:03 PM

The 2024 LYRIQ configurator is now up on Cadillac.

A private single-use link that is to let 2023 order holders update to 2024 was supposed to be active at 12:00PM ET. As of 1:00PM ET it is still not active.

Supply Chain? Or is the IT guy just late from getting back from lunch?

bcj · 02-09-2023, 03:02 PM

Dadhawk · 02-09-2023, 03:48 PM

Well, the deed is done. My 05/22 MY23 order is now a 02/23 MY24 order. Ultimately, I'm much happier with the build anyway. I love the color, there was an option for "no chrome", and the pricing (after accounting for the tax credit and the $5,000 private offer from GM to MY23 order holders) is within the range of what I expected.

New build:

Dadhawk · 02-10-2023, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bcj

The one on the left has a very sexy body sway. I watched that a little more closely than I should have. That's a woman comfortable in her own skin for sure.

spike021 · 03-31-2023, 02:19 PM

Figured this may be relevant: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-pl...140319747.html

Dadhawk · 03-31-2023, 02:31 PM

@spike021 yea, this is all over the Lyriq forums. Right now it appears it Carplay will be staying in the Lyriq and the Bolt, but wouldn't be in the upcoming EVs.

The Lyriq, and subsequent GM EVs have Android Automotive built in and is what runs the infotainment systems. But Android Auto and Carplay are layered on top of that.

It's an interesting move, as I'm sure it will alienate a good portion of potential buyers, but doesn't impact my decision as I'm not in the iOS universe.

Stonehorsw · 03-31-2023, 04:30 PM

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Dadhawk · 03-31-2023, 07:26 PM

Not really new. I already knew that. They are just now really delivering them in "mass" although nowhere near full production admittedly. They are up to somewhere around VIN 2500.

The had two delivery holds for software reasons in 2022, and now are delivering them, including SuperCruise activated.

As far as Model Y sales, well good for Tesla and those that like their style. Not my thing.

wbradley · 03-31-2023, 09:13 PM

Nice one, Dadhawk. I sat in one in Feb at the Toronto car show and it was quite nice, light show and all. Funny, as I was admiring the back of the vehicle an older guy (late 60's) said out loud to his son that he thought it looked like a hearse. I laughed and commented to him if that's a hearse, take me away. lol
Now just to be patient.

I was considering a Polestar 2 but the Volvo C40 electric is looking more interesting to me now I think. But, given the option of with or without all the automated driving features and the really cool interior lighting, I'd be inclined to save the $10K and just stick with 2 motor awd option only.

spike021 · 04-01-2023, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley

Nice one, Dadhawk. I sat in one in Feb at the Toronto car show and it was quite nice, light show and all. Funny, as I was admiring the back of the vehicle an older guy (late 60's) said out loud to his son that he thought it looked like a hearse. I laughed and commented to him if that's a hearse, take me away. lol
Now just to be patient.

I was considering a Polestar 2 but the Volvo C40 electric is looking more interesting to me now I think. But, given the option of with or without all the automated driving features and the really cool interior lighting, I'd be inclined to save the $10K and just stick with 2 motor awd option only.

I like the Polestar 2 but hate that it looks so lifted.

Honestly it reminds me a lot of a lifted WRX that's EV (cough cough Subaru).

02-02-2023, 03:22 PM	#127
Dadhawk 1st86 Driver! Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86) Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 19,814 Thanks: 38,823 Thanked 24,939 Times in 11,376 Posts Mentioned: 182 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	The current "mystery of the day" regarding the LYRIQ. Cadillac Canada (and later Cadillac USA) posted the range for the 2024 AWD and RWD models. The AWD has a projected range only 1 mile less than the RWD only model. Fantastic if true. Unfortunately there is no explanation how you add @250lbs, don't increase the battery, and run this close. GM has been relatively accurate with their estimated ranges in the past. I'm thinking magic fairy dust at this point. Th 2024 is supposed to be introduced by next Friday, and those of us with confirmed orders will receive a link to convert from MY23 to MY24. __________________ Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark. What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".

02-03-2023, 12:49 PM	#130
Dadhawk 1st86 Driver! Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86) Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 19,814 Thanks: 38,823 Thanked 24,939 Times in 11,376 Posts Mentioned: 182 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Well, here's a surprising and unexpected change. the Department of Revenue, after being petitioned by both GM and Tesla, has changed their policy and are now using the EPA classifications for vehicles to determine eligibility for the tax credit incentive. This means the LYRIQ and certain Tesla vehicles previously classified as "cars" eligible for the $55,000 limit now fall under the $80,000 truck/suv limit. __________________ Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark. What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".

02-09-2023, 01:03 PM	#131
Dadhawk 1st86 Driver! Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86) Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 19,814 Thanks: 38,823 Thanked 24,939 Times in 11,376 Posts Mentioned: 182 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	The 2024 LYRIQ configurator is now up on Cadillac. A private single-use link that is to let 2023 order holders update to 2024 was supposed to be active at 12:00PM ET. As of 1:00PM ET it is still not active. Supply Chain? Or is the IT guy just late from getting back from lunch? __________________ Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark. What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".

02-09-2023, 03:48 PM	#133
Dadhawk 1st86 Driver! Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86) Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 19,814 Thanks: 38,823 Thanked 24,939 Times in 11,376 Posts Mentioned: 182 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Well, the deed is done. My 05/22 MY23 order is now a 02/23 MY24 order. Ultimately, I'm much happier with the build anyway. I love the color, there was an option for "no chrome", and the pricing (after accounting for the tax credit and the $5,000 private offer from GM to MY23 order holders) is within the range of what I expected. New build: __________________ Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark. What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".

03-31-2023, 02:31 PM	#136
Dadhawk 1st86 Driver! Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86) Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 19,814 Thanks: 38,823 Thanked 24,939 Times in 11,376 Posts Mentioned: 182 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	@spike021 yea, this is all over the Lyriq forums. Right now it appears it Carplay will be staying in the Lyriq and the Bolt, but wouldn't be in the upcoming EVs. The Lyriq, and subsequent GM EVs have Android Automotive built in and is what runs the infotainment systems. But Android Auto and Carplay are layered on top of that. It's an interesting move, as I'm sure it will alienate a good portion of potential buyers, but doesn't impact my decision as I'm not in the iOS universe. __________________ Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark. What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".

02-02-2023, 04:34 PM	#128
86league Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Drives: '13 BRZ Limited Location: League City, TX Posts: 195 Thanks: 16 Thanked 100 Times in 60 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Have you looked at insurance for the Lyriq? Wondering if it will have a price premium vs a "comparable" vehicle - which I don't know what that would be. High end XT6 maybe? I've seen reports that EV's are generally more expensive to insure - and I know Tesla offered their own insurance as a result. Just curious - one of these days I'll maybe get an EV...

03-31-2023, 04:30 PM	#137
Stonehorsw Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Drives: 18 Brz (Sold) / 22 BRZ Location: Michigan Posts: 647 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 439 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Q4 numbers telling DadHawk something . Attached Images

03-31-2023, 07:26 PM	#138
Dadhawk 1st86 Driver! Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86) Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 19,814 Thanks: 38,823 Thanked 24,939 Times in 11,376 Posts Mentioned: 182 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Not really new. I already knew that. They are just now really delivering them in "mass" although nowhere near full production admittedly. They are up to somewhere around VIN 2500. The had two delivery holds for software reasons in 2022, and now are delivering them, including SuperCruise activated. As far as Model Y sales, well good for Tesla and those that like their style. Not my thing. __________________ Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark. What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".

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