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Just hammers home how important proper process control is in manufacturing when you have a process controlled outcome (i.e. dimensional inspection or NDT of the end product cannot fully determine if the part is within spec). Manufacturing is hard (but very fun at times)! That being said, I don't envy the engineers doing the frantic problem solving at the factory right now. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, am still wearing the t-shirt...
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08-04-2022, 08:50 AM | #436 |
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That is way too much RTV on the pan, jesus christ. I'm assuming the fitment is tight, they could probably get away with using half as much RTV.
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https://www.thedrive.com/news/toyota...0HGX2GVy61yJtw
Looks like Blake is getting a new engine and possibility of warranty language changing. |
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08-04-2022, 10:21 AM | #438 | |
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I'm still not clear though if "Toyota" really changed it's mind or did Blake just finally talk to Toyota Corporate and not the local dealer and the regional franchise reps. I know when I was at the Long Beach First 86 event, this very question was asked of the Scion corporate honchos including the person responsible for warranty, and the Scion President. They stated with no hesitation that they would not, at the corporate level, deny a warranty service for a vehicle used in these type of events and if the dealer or regional techs tried to do so to escalate it immediately. Now, I know a lot changes in 10 years, but I would not have expected this to have changed, particularly since they give you membership and encourage you to participate in related events.
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This case was someone else, this engine was removed complete and sent to Subaru to inspect.
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I have worn the shirt every single day for the last 30 years.
Although since we make brake rotors "We'll test it in production" is a very, very, bad idea so we ensure they are good before they get made or go out the door!
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Also, check the update from GRM on the page on their forum and their Facebook page.
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo.../197929/page2/
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Actual production testing would be considered Very Bad. The T-shirt (and I am referring to an actual, literal T-shirt that I wore to work occasionally) was intended to remind people that many times what they were suggesting literally translated to testing new code or hardware in production. Of course NONE of our business continuity interruptions would have been caused by someone ignoring that idea and knocking out a critical production server, or by blatantly ignoring best practices for them. |
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This got big, it even showed up on some Swedish car news sites, and we don't even have the gr86 here yet(a handfull might come in later).
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Let me explain a small part of manufacturing to you. Company A buys whole component from company B. Company B's component fails on end user. Company A still has to take care of their customer. Toyota should take care of the issue, and Toyota IS taking care of the issue. Like most problems of this nature, it is likely not as large as the forum tends to make it, as the forum tends to have a higher concentration of enthusiasts. Whatever resolution comes between Toyota and Subaru, will be between them and we likely will never know the details.
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Here is a good look at exactly how much over sealed these are before they start to creep into the motor. This guy pulled his pan and holy crap - 5:12 minute mark+
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I saw this video this morning as well and something came to my mind, what does it look like inside a Gen1 or other makes/models for that matter? I mean excess isn't going to be an issue if it doesn't break off.
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