Supra...killing the 86/BRZ?

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by 86MLR

It's a know fact that manual car owners are better lovers.

The reasons are self evident.

Carry on.......

Are you saying - oh, nevermind -



humfrz

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by humfrz

You are ALL messed up -


humfrz

Apparently

[Adam_L]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

I must be doing something wrong...I DD a MT, drive a FR-S AT on weekends and drive a MT Ram at work haha

Well, given that you know your vehicles, you could probably imagine how they'd preform in the alternate transmission ( whether good or bad) , as for most vehicles there is an ideal tranny type, and possibly an alternate ( if two different tranny are offered). Its true in the last 10 years, the ideal for many vehicle is Auto ( some sports cars, most SUVs , most trucks, most Vans , most sedans)...for sure once you're over 3800 lbs curb weight. Now a Tacoma, 2.7L ......if curb weight is around 3800 lbs, manual could still be a good option, especially if you're doing light duty payload and towing....under 1000 lbs.

[humfrz]

ATTENTION all you MT shifting experts.


Hop in and take er fer ah spin...


humfrz

[humfrz]

That's what I was afraid of -

[humfrz]

Obviously ma med time -


humfrz

[HRTROB]

Originally Posted by Adam_L

++1 yes, correct choose transmission type based on vehicle type!! Full size trucks...Given payload towing, or a 4500+ lbs SUV , gotta go AT transmission in this day in age!

I have to disagree. I have a turbo-diesel Land Cruiser 80 series that weighs 4,972 lbs stock (mine is much heavier with front and rear ARB bumpers, rock sliders, dual batteries, roof basket with awning, winch and 33" tires) and the 5 speed manual makes it a blast to drive around town, on the highway and in the trail. Wouldn't have it any other way. I also have a Land Cruiser 200 with a 4.5L twin turbo diesel V8 but AT and I can only imagine how much more fun it would be with a manual

[Planebuilder]

just at the North American Auto Show in Detroit, The F-86 list price is 26K It looks good too. The supra did not impress me. too may styling flairs, useless crap!! This is why I bought my FRS, the clean Aerodynamics

[bkharmony]

Originally Posted by AdmiralAhab

Apparently, my wording was confusing. I meant that by having one of these cars, I'm going to come to be associated with the type of people that drive them, which apparently includes people with sticks up their asses about the most moronic things.

You're absolutely right. I suggest you join the Reddit FT86 community. All they do there is talk about rims and tires and take pictures of their cars. No sticks anywhere near their asses!

[Packofcrows]

I'm looking at buying a newer ft86 for my sis.... so for me no. Then, I am buying myself a new Supra.... if within 2 years they don't release a manual (which I doubt they will). Atm, looking at a 2017ish WRX my buddy is trying to get rid off for cheap.

[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by bkharmony

You're absolutely right. I suggest you join the Reddit FT86 community. All they do there is talk about rims and tires and take pictures of their cars. No sticks anywhere near their asses!

LOL


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[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Adam_L

++1 yes, correct choose transmission type based on vehicle type!! Full size trucks...Given payload towing, or a 4500+ lbs SUV , gotta go AT transmission in this day in age!

For me it's not the size of the vehicle as much as engine compression, power and axle gearing. A low compression, low power turd that has trouble moving the vehicle and can't engine brake benefits more from an automatic transmission. A more performance-oriented engine seems to ask for more engagement from a manual transmission.

I drove a relatively wimpy S10 for a few years that was manual. It was okay, but I think I would have preferred an auto. My Jeep was fine for years with AT with its 190 HP/220 ft lb low compression engine. Once the stroker went in and bumped the torque by 100 ft lbs, it just begs for a manual.

This is why I could never buy an AT 86. While it's not particularly powerful, this boxer is a high-revving, high compression motor that begs for more engagement than an AT can provide.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Packofcrows

I'm looking at buying a newer ft86 for my sis.... so for me no. Then, I am buying myself a new Supra.... if within 2 years they don't release a manual (which I doubt they will). Atm, looking at a 2017ish WRX my buddy is trying to get rid off for cheap.

Welcome back, Packofcrows, where ya been?


humfrz

[AdmiralAhab]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

Welcome to the forum!



I have had my AT for 6.5 years.



What kind of forum experience were you looking for?



Because, back in 2012, when everyone that had a twin, bought it new; Things were different back then. (Though the AT vs MT was being discussed)



By my estimates: 50% of any forum is moronic arguing.



Also, for someone that says that they lack experience with MTs; how do you know a MT would be outclassed? Plus, this does not take into account how much people enjoy their MT.



But, I am glad that you got an AT. (You said you felt like you might do something really stupid if you got a MT!)





Anyway, Check out the Official MEME thread in off topic.

I'm saying a MT in the Supra would be outperformed by the auto. Let's be real here, for any spirited driving it's going to be used in paddle mode, and it's my understanding that these transmissions (at least higher end units) have been faster shifting than manually moving a lever for well over a decade.

I am well aware plenty of people enjoy the option of an MT, but I do find it baffling to prefer something that would be detrimental to the car's performance. Obviously, the inverse is true on the twins, where the manual mode of the AT is okay at best.

And yeah, what I meant by "something stupid" has a lot to do with feeling out the gates. The way back would have involved frequent shifting, and I was having a very hard time feeling between 3rd and 5th. If I could have driven highway home, I probably would have just got the MT. XD