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Just re-watched the video and there were indeed double yellow flags displayed at the flag stand where the incident happened. However, they pulled the double yellows and went back to green before the crane was behind the barriers. It had backed up and was before the flag stand when they waved the green, but not clear of the track. I guess the next question would be is did the 2 preceding flag stands also pull the double yellows at the same time #12 did? If F1 pulled the double yellows at all the preceding stands, I'd say the blame is going to be on them for going green when there was a (10,000lb.?) hunk of metal at the edge of the track and not clear. Last edited by White64Goat; 10-07-2014 at 09:29 PM. |
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It's in the FIA regulations that a helicopter be available at all times during practice, quali, and the race. |
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As I understand it, and I may be wrong, waved yellows (single yellow) is for a simple caution, ie. driver rejoining track, while double waved yellows means an active hazard in the area and to be prepared to stop immediately. The safety car seems to take the place of the full course caution. I believe the actual rule is you cannot set a personal best sector under yellow flags. I'll have to take a look at the rules.
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Also I don't put much into the "lifting the back of the lift up" as people have been saying.. It had a car suspended in mid air and was hit at the counterweight.. Having assembled heavy equipment before and operating it, it doesn't take as much force to lift the back end as people are thinking.. I still have not heard any good news yet.. I hope he at least recovers to live a normal life, his injury is severe so I don't think we will see him in a car again unfortunately |
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I think we're going to see some changes to the safety car rules pretty soon. Its a miracle we havent seen more incidents like this in recent years.
I'm all for allowing the race to go on and keeping local yellows, but I'm shocked at how seemingly apprehensive the FIA is to send out the safety car when its necessary. Anytime there is equipment or marshalls on the track side of the barriers, I think there should be a safety car. That being said, I'm not sure newer safety car rules would have affected Bianchi's crash, he may have gone off while behind the safety car just the same. Which wouldnt be a first either.
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To me that's just not acceptable, no helicopter at a circuit which is somewhat secluded is just a recipe for disaster. |
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Jules has a difuse axonal injury to the brain, so it looks very bleak at the moment. Richard Hammond had the same injury but the severity of his crash from what I understand was far less. Then again, Jules is infinitely more fit than Hammond...I'm just clutching at straws here... |
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That is ridiculous. I've seen them cancel practice and quali sessions for no heli, but allowing a race to go on? |
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^^^ Could not have said it better.
That reminds me of a call Lewis made to his team at the begining of the race where he said "safety car needs to go faster". Not long after that I beleive it was Ericsson lost control and spun (UNDER SC). Obviously it's in the driver's nature to have this attitute, however a part of me thinks it's been so long since we've lost a driver during a race, that maybe they are getting complacent. |
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Then I'd say that F1 needs to revisit their flagging/flags and make adjustments as needed to include weather conditions. No way that area should have gone back to green just because the front end loader had moved back to an area behind the flag stand (not off track). It's just common sense that with a 5 or 6 ton piece of equipment removing another wrecked car, that it needs to be off track and behind the barriers before turning that area back to green (even if it wasn't raining) in my opinion.
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