Really, which is faster AT vs MT?

[HKz]

Originally Posted by gen3v8

The 5hp was at the crank, So nothing to do with the type of transmission or its ratios.

huh I know...wasn't what I was saying yo..people in this thread were talking about how the new gen has the same HP with either MT or AT and that the old AT was slower and so I was merely reiterating that the 5 HP difference from first gen was meaningless, the main difference/advantage was the gearing..

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by ozafar

Calm down dude. We all agree the it’s great to get a manual, but you don’t have to get all worked up for some of us that buy autos. You don’t know their training and it’s kinda unfair to put anyone down for wanting an auto.

I’ve owned gen1 manual and auto, and I’m as fast at Autobahn North as the fastest time posted on your link for best track times. (And that was a heavily modified car, similar to mine).

Point is, no need to be so brazen. Plenty of reasons to buy a manual, and plenty to buy an auto.

Dude, don't you tell me to calm down. These people who drive automatic twins are abominations to God. They are heartless heathens who should be put down like rabid dogs.

[gen3v8]

Originally Posted by HKz

huh I know...wasn't what I was saying yo..people in this thread were talking about how the new gen has the same HP with either MT or AT and that the old AT was slower and so I was merely reiterating that the 5 HP difference from first gen was meaningless, the main difference/advantage was the gearing..

Okay

[7 skulls]

The auto’s good, but it’s not faster than the manual.[/QUOTE]

In shifting it is unless your too fast, too furious.

[7 skulls]

Originally Posted by EAGLE5

Dude, don't you tell me to calm down. These people who drive automatic twins are abominations to God. They are heartless heathens who should be put down like rabid dogs.

You misspelled iconoclast.

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by 7 skulls

You misspelled iconoclast.

That too.

[PorscheUnlimited16]

Depends who you ask. A grandma would say the Auto is quicker then the Manual. Her hips grinding while shifting gears won’t help.

[humdizzle]

the automatic is pretty bad.

After you've driven a DCT transmission it absolutely shits on every other automatic. thats the only type of automatic thats acceptable

[PorscheUnlimited16]

Yes this particular auto slush box is 2000s tech. The only acceptable slush box is the Zf8.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by PorscheUnlimited16

Depends who you ask. A grandma would say the Auto is quicker then the Manual. Her hips grinding while shifting gears won’t help.

that's because she's granny shifting, and not double clutching like she should've.

[Sapphireho]

My Granny loved to shift. She had a Rambler Scrambler.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Chan

In this second gen the horsepower is the same in the MT vs AT. I saw a video where a couple guys were racing on the freeway. It seemed like the automatic had the edge.

Are there any numbers or dater that suggest otherwise?

In the first gen, the manual was like a second faster to sixty. The second gen will likely be the same. Gearing is less aggressive. Fifth gear in the auto is longer than sixth gear in the manual, and the auto has another gear.



The second gen is probably the same. The auto will be faster when two novice driver's are racing. The auto will be faster around town with anyone who is driving reasonably; it is far easier to drive aggressively in an auto than in a manual without shifting ridiculous like you're this guy:

[Robertw]

These threads are why I miss forums.

[HKz]

Originally Posted by humdizzle

the automatic is pretty bad.

After you've driven a DCT transmission it absolutely shits on every other automatic. thats the only type of automatic thats acceptable

pretty bad is very unfair to say. the system will never auto upshift in manual mode which shits on so many "sporty" cars with autos as a bunch of will force the next gear on you. at wot and shifting at high rpms, the gear changes are still very reasonably quick and there ain't any weird low speed jerkiness..it is very smooth all the way through the rev range & gears.. dct would only add unnecessary weight to the twins that would only make a dct variant slower and it isn't like you're controlling a large amount of torque for shifting speeds to really matter..