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Old 03-25-2022, 11:34 AM   #379
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How likely is that 3cyl going to make it into the US? Not to mention with markups, thats going to be a $50-60k car. Im betting its going for the CTR market with FWD. The Focus is dead, Evo dead, Sti dead. Civic Type R and Veloster N are going to be its competition.

Prediction: No 3cyl, FWD Hybrid focused on power. Think 260hp Honda CRZ.
My prediction: 100% certain the US market GR Corolla is going to have the 3 cylinder turbo with close to 300 hp, AWD and a 6sp manual. MSRP under $40k.

Markups and the stupidity of the market at the moment will probably make it difficult to find around MSRP (and available at all). But give the industry another 1-2 years and things should have settled down a bit.
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Old 03-25-2022, 11:38 AM   #380
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How likely is that 3cyl going to make it into the US? Not to mention with markups, thats going to be a $50-60k car. Im betting its going for the CTR market with FWD. The Focus is dead, Evo dead, Sti dead. Civic Type R and Veloster N are going to be its competition.

Prediction: No 3cyl, FWD Hybrid focused on power. Think 260hp Honda CRZ.
I see nothing wrong with your prediction, so what's the problem?
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Old 03-25-2022, 01:20 PM   #381
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My concern is that US being US, will dumb down the GR Corolla with all the restrictions and what not, and we'll end up getting the equivalent of the Turbo Mazda 3, which yes, is AWD, AT, but even with the turbo is not exactly thrilling to drive. So the GR Corolla could be MT, AWD, with maybe a bigger or same engine but it will have so much BS from the regulations that we'll be paying a premium just because it has GR slapped on it and end up with a car that offers medium thrills.
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Old 03-25-2022, 01:25 PM   #382
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My concern is that US being US, will dumb down the GR Corolla with all the restrictions and what not, and we'll end up getting the equivalent of the Turbo Mazda 3, which yes, is AWD, AT, but even with the turbo is not exactly thrilling to drive. So the GR Corolla could be MT, AWD, with maybe a bigger or same engine but it will have so much BS from the regulations that we'll be paying a premium just because it has GR slapped on it and end up with a car that offers medium thrills.
I mean if it's bogged down by it's tuning that's an easy fix. But time will tell.
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Old 03-25-2022, 02:56 PM   #383
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If they stuff it with "Steering Insist" that can't be turned off permanently, that's a hard NO!
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Old 03-25-2022, 02:58 PM   #384
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I predict that no matter what it actually turns out to be 50% of the people here with think it is total crap and the other 50% will think it is the best vehicle ever made. There will be virtually no middle ground.

I predict anything that makes it here will just be a moderate HP increase, aero everywhere, AT only, modified appliance car with a nice premium price attached to it.
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Old 03-25-2022, 03:57 PM   #385
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The FN2 Type R that we got here in OZ (10 or so years ago, 2007-2011 to be exact) is not in the same league as the FK8 or the old DC2 or even the DC5 Integra Type Rs.

For Toyota 10 or so years ago the 86 was just being released, 11 years ago it wasn’t around. Evos and WRX STIs were though.
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Old 03-25-2022, 04:18 PM   #386
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I predict that no matter what it actually turns out to be 50% of the people here with think it is total crap and the other 50% will think it is the best vehicle ever made. There will be virtually no middle ground.

I predict anything that makes it here will just be a moderate HP increase, aero everywhere, AT only, modified appliance car with a nice premium price attached to it.
I also think this.

It will either be a FWD Hyperhatch, or the equivalent of a Tacoma TRD Pro
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I think it’d be great to have a Toyota reliable turbo hatch. However, I cannot imagine we’ll see anything lightweight and engaging spec wise like the GR Yaris.

Hopefully it’s not going to have what the is200 have. Sure it’s tunable but it’s not producing much even then.
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I also think this.

It will either be a FWD Hyperhatch, or the equivalent of a Tacoma TRD Pro
GR is the new TRD. Lost all true meaning and is just a marketing buzzword (well initials)
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I mean if it's bogged down by it's tuning that's an easy fix. But time will tell.
It’s already bogged down by a Corolla body.
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It’s already bogged down by a Corolla body.
Nah. It's not.
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Nah. It's not.
A boosted 3 pot does get bogged down by weight.
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It’s already bogged down by a Corolla body.
Have you driven a 19+ Corolla Hatchback?

I put ~19,000 mi on mine in a year. To me its only flaw is its light steering weight, which is a waste because it has a quick steering ratio. Otherwise it’s a very solid daily driver. Goes around corners very well too.
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