2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed! - Page 144 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Kiske · 02-13-2020, 08:17 PM

Indeed it is only unfair if it is done purposely to intentionally sell a poorer product. No different that the woes of buying a car just before the announced refresh.

PulsarBeeerz · 02-13-2020, 08:26 PM

Early adopters always get the short end of the stick. This is not new.

Lantanafrs2 · 02-13-2020, 08:31 PM

I wish they had the same mentality with the 86.

Tcoat · 02-13-2020, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I wish they had the same mentality with the 86.

Well they did make the post 13s so they don't blow engines randomly so we have that going for us.

R_E_L · 02-13-2020, 08:55 PM

I wonder if next year they offer a street version of the GT4 as their ultimate car? I really don't buy the 4 cyl Supra as an upgrade to our car without the manual. Plus, the 400 lb. leap in weight is too far of a jump. It's very much a different type of car.

Lantanafrs2 · 02-13-2020, 09:46 PM

2020 supras may be much more affordable next year

Atmo · 02-13-2020, 10:37 PM

I'm more interested in the suspension tweaks than the power bump.

Looking forward to 2021 road tests of both engine models especially by pros like Randy Pobst who criticized the 2020 for unpredictable reactions at times from the rear.

Atmo · 02-13-2020, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

2020 supras may be much more affordable next year

Especially used at Chevy dealers as pissed Supra early adopters switch to C8's.

funwheeldrive · 02-14-2020, 10:16 AM

The 2021 Supra is another example of why you should never buy a first year model of a brand new platform.

Tcoat · 02-14-2020, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

The 2021 Supra is another example of why you should never buy a first year model of a brand new platform.

Well SOMEBODY has to buy them or there may not be a second year.

mazeroni · 02-14-2020, 10:35 AM

Wait, what is different between the B58 in the Z4 and the B58 in the Supra? A bunch of Dynos showed that the Supra was making closer to 400 crank and could be easily modded to 5-700 with a tune and bolt-ons. Are we suggesting that the 2021 Supra will actually be making 450 crank now because it got 50 more hp in the marketing material, or is the engine actually mechanically different?

Dake · 02-14-2020, 10:37 AM

While I feel bad for the "average" buyer - I absolutely love the speculator tears.

That being said, even I am a little surprised that they made the shift so quickly. I think it's evidence they didn't really plan their roll out well, and now they're trying to play catch up.

I don't think the Supra is selling near as well as they hoped. I live in Houston where I see people DD'ing all manner of things, and I've still never seen a Supra on the road or at any Cars and Coffees. I see LC500s and even Mk IV Supras fairly regularly, but no sign of this.

Sapphireho · 02-14-2020, 11:02 AM

I got an email from Toyota trying to sell me one.

guitarman · 02-14-2020, 11:11 AM

Gotta give Toyota credit for tweaking the Supra right away rather than resting on laurels for a few years. The 4-cylinder version is also a smart move.

....and while I was not a fan of the looks initially, it’s actually somehow starting to grow on me....I can envision picking up a used 2021 Supra in a few years if I saw a good deal on one.

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02-13-2020, 08:17 PM	#2003
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R_E_L He's got this. Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: 50th Anni BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 569 Thanks: 251 Thanked 247 Times in 129 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wonder if next year they offer a street version of the GT4 as their ultimate car? I really don't buy the 4 cyl Supra as an upgrade to our car without the manual. Plus, the 400 lb. leap in weight is too far of a jump. It's very much a different type of car. __________________ Don't worry, I'm certified... promise.

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guitarman Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Drives: 2016 Scion FR-S Location: British Columbia Posts: 58 Thanks: 44 Thanked 47 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Better Supra Gotta give Toyota credit for tweaking the Supra right away rather than resting on laurels for a few years. The 4-cylinder version is also a smart move. ....and while I was not a fan of the looks initially, it’s actually somehow starting to grow on me....I can envision picking up a used 2021 Supra in a few years if I saw a good deal on one.

02-13-2020, 08:26 PM	#2004
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02-13-2020, 08:31 PM	#2005
Lantanafrs2 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Drives: 2013 frs red Location: South Florida Posts: 3,517 Thanks: 2,520 Thanked 3,088 Times in 1,654 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I wish they had the same mentality with the 86.

02-13-2020, 09:46 PM	#2008
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02-13-2020, 10:37 PM	#2009
Atmo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Drives: TBA Location: FL350 Posts: 943 Thanks: 814 Thanked 1,123 Times in 586 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm more interested in the suspension tweaks than the power bump. Looking forward to 2021 road tests of both engine models especially by pros like Randy Pobst who criticized the 2020 for unpredictable reactions at times from the rear.

02-14-2020, 10:16 AM	#2011
funwheeldrive Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: BANNED FOR TELLING THE TRUTH Location: MODS ARE ON A POWER TRIP Posts: 3,447 Thanks: 7,830 Thanked 3,022 Times in 1,409 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	The 2021 Supra is another example of why you should never buy a first year model of a brand new platform.

02-14-2020, 10:35 AM	#2013
mazeroni Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Series 10 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,116 Thanks: 600 Thanked 1,017 Times in 512 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wait, what is different between the B58 in the Z4 and the B58 in the Supra? A bunch of Dynos showed that the Supra was making closer to 400 crank and could be easily modded to 5-700 with a tune and bolt-ons. Are we suggesting that the 2021 Supra will actually be making 450 crank now because it got 50 more hp in the marketing material, or is the engine actually mechanically different?

02-14-2020, 10:37 AM	#2014
Dake Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: Houston Posts: 1,056 Thanks: 464 Thanked 819 Times in 414 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	While I feel bad for the "average" buyer - I absolutely love the speculator tears. That being said, even I am a little surprised that they made the shift so quickly. I think it's evidence they didn't really plan their roll out well, and now they're trying to play catch up. I don't think the Supra is selling near as well as they hoped. I live in Houston where I see people DD'ing all manner of things, and I've still never seen a Supra on the road or at any Cars and Coffees. I see LC500s and even Mk IV Supras fairly regularly, but no sign of this.

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