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The problem with a 2 way is that sometimes people screw up when setting them up and they don't even know it. It's complicated to do correctly. Sometimes "professionals" don't get it right. Sometimes people will set things up so that it feels good to them, but in reality it's making them slower and annoying their passengers. It happens. A single adjustable or even non-adjustable shock honestly can be almost as good if they are valved right from the start. They are obviously less flexible if you're changing spring rates but for what it sounds like you're into I don't think you would be sacrificing much. An upcoming Bilstein fixed perch shock (with RCE Yellow ) option from us would be a very good comfortable easy solution. Nothing to screw up. But this is not something available now or even soon. Honestly every time I read what you're looking for I think Ohlins R&T or Bilstein PSS10. Or our Bilstein fixed perch dampers with RCE Yellows. 2 out of 3 of those aren't out yet unfortunately. I also think you should ride in one of our RCE T2s with 6k springs that is properly set-up. - Andy |
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08-30-2013, 01:17 PM | #44 | |
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You do start to lose camber in roll when you're too low (i.e. more roll than negative camber gained). CSG brought up the roll center point as well. Both are very long topics. The rear of the car toes in under compression. - Andy |
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Those parts may not totally eliminate it but it helps. A couple reviews on here. - Andy |
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Can you go into more detail regarding the lurching/bouncing/etc? Can you log it with an accelerometer and send the data to me? Any smartphone can do this. Replacing bushings to reduce play will help, but I'd look for other solutions as well. |
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omg epic thread. thank you for collaborating and creating this thread for the community. i feel that this car is already slow enough as it is but its the cornering capability that makes this car hold its own. a thread for the ones that actually care about that..i mean 'stance' or 'static' set-ups are cool too (not my cup of tea, but to each of his own)... this is sweet.
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And thanks for making me really uncomfortable. - Andy |
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What would you folks suggest to those that are only after the "lowered" look without sacrificing, or improving a bit, the comfort with a budget of <$1500? There are so many options out there that it's stupid hard to choose unless he/she is a fan boy/girl of a specific brand.
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The wheel/tire setup will naturally drop your car without altering suspension geometry, and the springs will slightly drop the car without compromising suspension geometry and ride comfort too much. |
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@Racecomp Engineering @CSG Mike
So I heard someone mention somewhere on this forum the other day about the 'British Approach' (or similar) on springs and anti-roll bars. The statement was around soft sprung damper/spring package and controlling balance with a/r bars. This is the approach which I have been taught by my mentor (ex-WRC engineer). Our roads here are as you may suspect, very variable. The best roads in England tend to be quite challenging to suspension and overly-stiff tends to perform poorly. I consider the OE damper/spring package on the GT86 pretty good for our 'b roads' (country lanes). Car changes direction quickly, gives reasonable ride quality, not 'crashy' and gives a nice cushion for those rare times I get air. My car has stock suspension apart from a 16mm rear bar. I found an 18mm bar upset the balance and made it less predictable. Front bar is stock as I don't consider the car has excessive roll. I'm also running AD08 tyres. So i'm curious what your guys views would be on this style of chassis tuning, versus what I think is your preferred method of stiffer spring and less a/r bar (or even none). Thanks. |
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