Stock motor started knocking... (shortblock + more replaced, 1/18) resolved - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

MarkR171 · 02-01-2016, 04:09 PM

Well I just called roadside again and they are sending me a new tow from a different company right now so hopefully I can get it to the dealer in time so they can hear the noise.

fumanchu1 · 02-01-2016, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

This is true... if oil is in operational temp or bearing spun horribly.

Anyways, on-topic.

If you think bearing is spun, do not, again DO NOT restart it again. For spun bearing, it won't bring up CEL. A lot ppl make a mistake by restarting the engine and make it worse. When bearing is spun and restarting the engine can cause valves to bend or worse, bend the piston rods.

and then... TOTALED!!!!

go_a_way1 · 02-01-2016, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fumanchu1

and then... TOTALED!!!!

in before totaled??

MarkR171 · 02-01-2016, 04:15 PM

I was waiting for that, lol

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-Phil · 02-01-2016, 04:17 PM

Regardless of it being covered under warranty or not, You're still out a car you just bought for a month or so which shouldn't happen

ichitaka05 · 02-01-2016, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fumanchu1

and then... TOTALED!!!!

Meh, knock engine specially that low mileage is under warranty, not even gonna bother saying that.

This isn't fb group page lol

fumanchu1 · 02-01-2016, 04:24 PM

ICHI... I SAID TOTALED

OP tell your dealer I said totaled... he'll understand and give you a new one. I'm that influential.

in all seriousness though, hope the engine/car is ok

ichitaka05 · 02-01-2016, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fumanchu1

ICHI... I SAID TOTALED

OP tell your dealer I said totaled... he'll understand and give you a new one. I'm that influential.

in all seriousness though, hope the engine/car is ok

In this forum only Tada-san is only influential enough lol

& yes, he do lurk this forum. Not sure if he have an account.

2013GTRNate · 02-01-2016, 05:28 PM

To the OP, I am so sorry about your engine. I hope that they get you back on the road again soon.

It is just the reality with cars; a small percentage will have issues regardless of manufacturer. I have been Turbo'd on the stock internals for 8,000 miles and have no issues so it isn't normal from my perspective.

I hope that they resolve your situation soon so that you can get back on the road.

MarkR171 · 02-01-2016, 05:29 PM

I'm not letting it get me discouraged. I like the car and as long as everything is fixed under warranty I'm not going to be upset about it. I have another car to drive in the meantime.

The car is at the dealer now so it's just a waiting game now.

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mad_sb · 02-01-2016, 05:55 PM

So, my thought is that the over filled oil is the culprit... assuming it is over filled enough for the crank to whip it into a foam, eventually reducing lubrication leading to the wear that causes the knock. Not sure though if the oil will de-foam after sitting for 45 minutes or so...

You did say 3/4" over the full mark right? Get photo proof it is over filled that much before you even think about draining the oil. And also make sure no one other than the dealer starts the engine again... don't want to give them any reason to blame you for the damage.

MarkR171 · 02-01-2016, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb

You did say 3/4" over the full mark right? Get photo proof it is over filled that much before you even think about draining the oil. And also make sure no one other than the dealer starts the engine again... don't want to give them any reason to blame you for the damage.

I mentioned the overfill to the dealer (not the same one that did the oil change,) and showed them a picture of the dipstick.

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nikitopo · 02-02-2016, 06:01 AM

Hope the best!

FRS Justin · 02-02-2016, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb

So, my thought is that the over filled oil is the culprit... assuming it is over filled enough for the crank to whip it into a foam, eventually reducing lubrication leading to the wear that causes the knock. Not sure though if the oil will de-foam after sitting for 45 minutes or so...

You did say 3/4" over the full mark right? Get photo proof it is over filled that much before you even think about draining the oil. And also make sure no one other than the dealer starts the engine again... don't want to give them any reason to blame you for the damage.

Whips oil into foam then the oil pump gears cant pump the oil sounds plausible. Just hope they don't drain it and say there you go its good... The damage is done to the entire motor then not just bearings......I would love to send in a oil sample for analysis to see how much bearing and metal material is floating around in it. I don't know if only a quart would do that, I do know the oil level is higher than the pan when properly filled though.

good luck, stick to your guns on a engine replacement

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