Oft Tune E85 Showing Codes P1170 P117B

[gonzo]

EDIT: Thread title is wrong. I believe the codes were 0171 too lean and 117B direct injection. NOT 1170 port injection.

I have had oft headers and e85 for almost a year now. Today car threw check engine codes P0171 P117B. I reset the codes, and I did a wot pull from 3k to 4.5k and the afr was good, mid 12s, and LT trim was around 7%, but then adv mult dropped to 0.0. Ignition adv is in the 40s. I recorded it and will post the log soon.

I'm going to make another log on the way home. Which parameters should I be logging? Should I try another wot pull? Any ideas? The car sounds and idles fine.

Thanks a lot for any help. @Shiv@Openflash @steve99 @mad_sb

[gonzo]

Don't tell me direct injection failed. The codes are for too lean and Direct Injector Fuel Performance.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I have had oft headers and e85 for almost a year now. Today car threw check engine codes P1170 P117B. I reset the codes, and I did a wot pull from 3k to 4.5k and the afr was good, mid 12s, and LT trim was around 7%, but then adv mult dropped to 0.0. Ignition adv is in the 40s. I recorded it and will post the log soon.

I'm going to make another log on the way home. Which parameters should I be logging? Should I try another wot pull? Any ideas? The car sounds and idles fine.

Thanks a lot for any help. @Shiv@Openflash @steve99 @mad_sb

I would not be doing WOT high rpm runs till you find out what wrong.

Check for intake air leaks, maf sensor dirty especially if you have aftermarket intake or an oiled filter.

Check for exhaust leaks, and 02 sensor plugs or maf sensor plugs all good.

do a log and look for high ltft, the IAM being at zero indicates significant knock occurring, check if commanded afr and afr are following each other under load.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Don't tell me direct injection failed. The codes are for too lean and Direct Injector Fuel Performance.

probably look at direct injector pulse width and port injector pulse width.


http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/ecutek/DTCList.pdf

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by steve99

I would not be doing WOT high rpm runs till you find out what wrong.

Check for intake air leaks, maf sensor dirty especially if you have aftermarket intake or an oiled filter.

Check for exhaust leaks, and 02 sensor plugs or maf sensor plugs all good.

do a log and look for high ltft, the IAM being at zero indicates significant knock occurring, check if commanded afr and afr are following each other under load.

Command afr and afr are following each otherr partial and wot. LTFT are high 30s when partial throttle but 5% wot. Stock intake and toyota drop in filter.

What's the easiest way to check for intake leaks and the sensor plugs? My tools/garage are 150 miles away at another house. Should I hit up a local mechanic? Dealer is out of the question.

Can I do wot lower than 5k logs?

Thanks again, Steve.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Command afr and afr are following each otherr partial and wot. LTFT are high 30s when partial throttle but 5% wot. Stock intake and toyota drop in filter.

What's the easiest way to check for intake leaks and the sensor plugs? My tools/garage are 150 miles away at another house. Should I hit up a local mechanic? Dealer is out of the question.

Can I do wot lower than 5k logs?

Thanks again, Steve.

LTFT high 30 is no good something is wrong.

try logging the direct and port injection pulse widths see if one stays zero all the time at medium rpm and load it runs some port and some direct injection

[steve99]

P1170
Port Injector Fuel Performance Does not come on DTC

P117B
Direct Injector Fuel Performance Does not come on DTC


P0171
System Too Lean (Bank 1)


Seems unlikely both injection systems would fail at same time

likely its going to be something common to both

fuel tank low empty
fuel pressure low fuel pump failing.
maf sensor issue
air leak ect

this guy got same codes after installing k&n intake ,

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1618213

pull out filter and maf sensor check maf sensor clean and no debris or anything in it. One guy had a mouse eat through his air filter and the bits of filter clogged maf sensor.

[gonzo]

http://www.datazap.me/u/gonzo/di-and...s?log=0&data=1

Only went WOT for about two seconds. Does anything look off? I'll check the filter tomorrow and make another log.

[Koa]

Originally Posted by gonzo

http://www.datazap.me/u/gonzo/di-and...s?log=0&data=1

Only went WOT for about two seconds. Does anything look off? I'll check the filter tomorrow and make another log.

STOP whatever you're doing and go back to a stock or trusted ROM. Your fuel trims are so out of whack. If you're under warranty get that car in asap. Otherwise, you will have to test the injectors and fueling system for integrity. Something is very wrong

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Koa

STOP whatever you're doing and go back to a stock or trusted ROM. Your fuel trims are so out of whack. If you're under warranty get that car in asap. Otherwise, you will have to test the injectors and fueling system for integrity. Something is very wrong

Thanks. Already back to a 91 map. I was thinking that maybe the e85 pump gave me 91 gas instead of e85. I'll log the 91 and see what happens.

[Phantobe]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Thanks. Already back to a 91 map. I was thinking that maybe the e85 pump gave me 91 gas instead of e85. I'll log the 91 and see what happens.

If you're running 91 on an E85 tune your fuel trims will be super high 20+ as shown in your log. That would be the most logical conclusion.

However I wouldn't understand how you mistaken E85 for 91.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Phantobe

If you're running 91 on an E85 tune your fuel trims will be super high 20+ as shown in your log. That would be the most logical conclusion.

However I wouldn't understand how you mistaken E85 for 91.

I don't. The island is on the opposite side of the station. I was thinking the gas station fucked up.

Went back to 91 and haven't thrown any codes. After 20 miles, my LTFT during partial throttle is 10-17% below 4500 rpm and then 3% above 4500 rpm (partial throttle). I didn't do any WOT pulls. I'll do some tomorrow and log it.

The good news: no codes, IAM stays at 1

Bad news: LTFT is 10-20% in the lower rpms, but drops below 5% in higher rpms.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I don't. The island is on the opposite side of the station. I was thinking the gas station fucked up.

Went back to 91 and haven't thrown any codes. After 20 miles, my LTFT during partial throttle is 10-17% below 4500 rpm and then 3% above 4500 rpm (partial throttle). I didn't do any WOT pulls. I'll do some tomorrow and log it.

The good news: no codes, IAM stays at 1

Bad news: LTFT is 10-20% in the lower rpms, but drops below 5% in higher rpms.

sounds like its back to intake\ exhaust leak crook\ dirty maf sensor or 02 sensor.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by steve99

sounds like its back to intake\ exhaust leak crook\ dirty maf sensor or 02 sensor.

Turns out it was a dying battery o_o

Car wouldn't start a week after these codes started. Replaced it and no more codes & LTFT is back to normal.