Failure After J02 Recall - Discussion Threads

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ybotspawn

My friend at the Toyota dealership says they have quoted just shy of 13 hours (makes sense with what everyone else seems to be quoting here). He also says you need at least 4-6 hours just to remove the old sealant. Thats not including the other parts of the job. Sounds like Toyota set these techs up to fail. Anyone got any estimates of what Subaru stated for the same job, just for comparison sake?

Subaru developed the instructions for Toyota. They will be identical right up to the time required.

[maslin]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Maybe the techs should be salaried - ??


humfrz

Some shops are. Several in my area advertise as such on the radio.

Most people find it hard to justify killing yourself for 10 hours a day (when the "work day" is supposed to be 8) day in and day out to make the same money no matter what. So then they add a bonus for hours and the whole salary concept goes out the window.

You would have to have a good group of techs, pay them fairly and trust that work will get done. Trust that work will get done... that's the hard part.

Edit: Pay them fairly is the other hard part. $30 an hour, making 60 hours a week, you make $93.6k a year. Walk in and say "I want $100k a year salary, I promise I'll be here at 6am to get that car done!" doesn't go over as well.

[ka-t_240]

Originally Posted by maslin

When m272 engines were eating balance shaft gears (2006-2008ish) we had one guy in the shop do them all. They would schedule 3 or 4 in a row, that's all he did for a week straight. By the second or third one you don't need to look up the timing marks, or walk to your toolbox 50 times for each wrench.

I work in the big equipment world where a head gasket job is often 45-50 hours, plus flush time or some transmission rebuilds are 150+ hours

[squall leonhart]

So now that I have been notified by Toyota that my car is part of the recall, I'm guessing they made a note of that in their system. (Note to self - maybe you shouldn't have had the dealership install your tires, giving them a chance to notify you in person that your car is included in a valve spring recall. D'oh.)

The way I understand it now is if the valve springs do fail, I'll be eating whatever the cost of damage is to the rest of the engine (ie the dealer still covers valve spring replacement, but not anything that has to be done because I failed to have the recall done before the spring(s) failed).

I think I'd probably still prefer the odds of the valve spring breaking compared to the apparently worse odds of having a spun bearing or other oil starvation issue due to recall work not being performed perfectly. Unless of course I can get some kind of assurance that if there is an oil starvation issue within a reasonable amount of time/mileage that they will cover all the repairs.

[ybotspawn]

Originally Posted by squall leonhart

So now that I have been notified by Toyota that my car is part of the recall, I'm guessing they made a note of that in their system. (Note to self - maybe you shouldn't have had the dealership install your tires, giving them a chance to notify you in person that your car is included in a valve spring recall. D'oh.)

The way I understand it now is if the valve springs do fail, I'll be eating whatever the cost of damage is to the rest of the engine (ie the dealer still covers valve spring replacement, but not anything that has to be done because I failed to have the recall done before the spring(s) failed).

I think I'd probably still prefer the odds of the valve spring breaking compared to the apparently worse odds of having a spun bearing or other oil starvation issue due to recall work not being performed perfectly. Unless of course I can get some kind of assurance that if there is an oil starvation issue within a reasonable amount of time/mileage that they will cover all the repairs.

If it was me... I'd ask to talk to the tech thats going to do the work and offer him money to take extra time. Theres no laws on bribing someone to take more time than required... Again, thats me.

[HlfpriceWngs]

Looks like YouTube community is picking up on these failures aswell. 300k views and counting

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by HlfpriceWngs

Looks like YouTube community is picking up on these failures aswell. 300k views and counting

Couldn't take it, only made it about 30 seconds into it. I'm guessing there wasn't anything new in it though.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Couldn't take it, only made it about 30 seconds into it. I'm guessing there wasn't anything new in it though.

The guy is a moron and has little clue what he is talking about. It is more just rambling than informative.


He keeps referencing his "customers".


Look to his left. Now look to his right.


Do you really want this man working on your car?

[maslin]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The guy is a moron and has little clue what he is talking about. It is more just rambling than informative.


He keeps referencing his "customers".


Look to his left. Now look to his right.


Do you really want this man working on your car?

@humfrz is that you?!?


Full disclosure: I didn;t watch the video. Not inferring anything about his attitude or being a moron.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The guy is a moron and has little clue what he is talking about. It is more just rambling than informative.

This immediately came to mind....

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by maslin

@humfrz is that you?!?

Far too young!


Although it does bear a striking resemblance to @Ultramaroon 's garage.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The guy is a moron and has little clue what he is talking about. It is more just rambling than informative.


He keeps referencing his "customers".


Look to his left. Now look to his right.


Do you really want this man working on your car?

The man is an idiot but for whatever reason a lot of people view his channel. So at least if gives the problem some exposure.

[Teseo]

Im guilty, i asked about it on his live stream where he answers cars question. The more shit around internet the better, some frs owners live under a rock

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Teseo

Im guilty, i asked about it on his live stream where he answers cars question. The more shit around internet the better, some frs owners live under a rock

Shit around the internet is exactly that. Shit. There is no value to shit. Unless of course you are growing crops.