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01-29-2020, 11:52 AM | #1 |
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Engineering Explained: Ruining the Manual Transmission
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I really love this YouTuber content and he knocked it out of the park in this one (he often does). This guy is also a very big proponent of the FT86 concept, he has many videos praising it specifically and the concept in general. He's an excellent critic that knows what he's talking about when comes to cars. It's a very educative video but for those who are not into such technical stuff too much the gist of it is this: The industry is heading towards long gear ratios in MT for whatever reason and this is ruining MTs (ruining everything if you ask me). One of the best things that made me choose a 2017 BRZ is the short gear ratios in the MT. I was right about my expectations. I enjoyed the short ratios immensely and it is my standard go to fun item. It works a peach. If I'm not in the mood for shifting I just rev out 1st and shift into 4th 5th or even 6th directly and I'm done. If I want to enjoy myself, I row through the gears and it's immense fun on public roads and still within safe speeds. I don't like the trend in the industry right now of making MTs with very long gear ratios but it seems to be getting more and more invasive. |
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Long gear ratios? In a 6 speed? For most of the MT history it had 3 gears. Those were long gears ratios. The manufacturers have to meet emission and mileage controls. Those requirements dictate gear ratios. This is why you now have 6 or even 8 gears in a MT. Oh and this dude is annoying as fuck and only gives you part of the story.
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Engines use to be manually cranked too. I would never look forward to that in the freezing cold at least. Quote:
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So your personal opinion doesn't seem to be that popular. |
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How can you lament the passing of something you do not even understand? There are videos of cat's falling off furniture with twice that many views so your measurement of quality is flawed.
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OK. Since when is 5th gear a fun gear? Looking at track vids this gearing seems better? Keeps you in 4th on basically any track saving a shift to 5th (I looked up COTA and Thunderhill east for reference).
And with either the added power (or maybe weight?) the 2018+ runs the 1/4 quicker with a faster 0-60 as well. |
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Porsche Cayman has stupid tall manual gears as well which all journalists complain about.
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500 extra revs and 20 added hp should change the ratios.
That is why we have quick change rear ands carefully select ratios on race cars for different tracks where performance is critical. Do not use track type requirements for street cars. Different goals. I hesitate to post this as many on this forum use track type preparation on there cars that never see a track. (street racing? Bar stool racing?) |
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But agree 100%, a street car is way different from a track car. And you can't build a car that is perfect for every track. |
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He actually contradicts himself over a few engineering points. Meh, he makes money from people believing everything he says. Click click click
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Gotta have that street cred yo. How could you possibly show your face at the parking lot with stock parts.
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As for EE.. he's ok "light reading" material. I wouldn't trust him to be an expert on anything he's produced. He's an entertainer and makes good money at it so congrats to him!
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The cat one was 1,000 times more entertaining and probably more educational as well.
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