FR-S vs MkIV Supra - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Stunnerman · 03-22-2012, 06:20 PM

Hi,

Anyone giving up their Supra for a FR-S/BRZ? I am in the market for a new DD and not sure which way I should go. I will only be doing bolt-ons and no plans for the track.

I have viewed the PRO/CON on paper, but was hoping some members could provide some insight.

Crashoverride · 03-22-2012, 07:02 PM

Search under "supra" or "MKIV" that should get you some good results, I for one am one of the guys coming from 4 supras to an FR-S, a 300hp whp FR-S is faster than a 400 whp supra. cheaper to get parts for, cheaper and over all new car. It's been talked to death, but good reads.

Stunnerman · 03-22-2012, 07:08 PM

Thanks for that. I found a thread under general that I can read up on.

racerkyo · 03-23-2012, 10:15 AM

I am selling my 98 supra na auto to get a brz.

Turbowned · 03-24-2012, 02:34 PM

You mean you would actually trade GOD'S CHARIOT for one of these little 200hp whizbangers? This car will never make 1,000whp on stock internals and be the best car ever gifted upon humanity, are you insane man??

/sarcasm.

Crashoverride · 03-26-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned

You mean you would actually trade GOD'S CHARIOT for one of these little 200hp whizbangers? This car will never make 1,000whp on stock internals and be the best car ever gifted upon humanity, are you insane man??

/sarcasm.

LOL
having driven "GODS CHARIOT" for over a decade I can say its time to move on...LOL different strokes for different folks...

JohnnyR · 03-26-2012, 03:23 PM

No way in hell I'd give up a Turbo Supra for one of these, unless I had a couple to spare. The Supra is the last real sports car Toyota made (the LFA is a supercar, i guess), and even when the 86 hits, the Supra will continue to be the last real sports car they made. It's looks, inside and out, are timeless. It also handled incredibly well for it's time, and even by today's standards. It has a bunch of aftermarket support laying around to boot, and knowledge. It's an icon.

fatoni · 03-26-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyR

No way in hell I'd give up a Turbo Supra for one of these, unless I had a couple to spare. The Supra is the last real sports car Toyota made (the LFA is a supercar, i guess), and even when the 86 hits, the Supra will continue to be the last real sports car they made. It's looks, inside and out, are timeless. It also handled incredibly well for it's time, and even by today's standards. It has a bunch of aftermarket support laying around to boot, and knowledge. It's an icon.

Icon? yes. Last sports car Toyota built? No

JohnnyR · 03-26-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

Icon? yes. Last sports car Toyota built? No

Did they build another sports car that I missed along the way then? Was it secret, and in JP only?

tree fingers · 03-26-2012, 04:30 PM

If you're not planning on going to the track, and if you aren't planning on doing any serious, curvy sprited driving, I would go with the MKIV.

Otherwise, I would suggest the FR-S/BRZ.

JohnnyR · 03-26-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tree fingers

If you're not planning on going to the track, and if you aren't planning on doing any serious, curvy sprited driving, I would go with the MKIV.

Otherwise, I would suggest the FR-S/BRZ.

I think people forget that the MKIV can also handle, and was one of the best handling cars for it's time, and even today. It's just easy to forget that considering the obscene amounts of power it can easily make.

86fanatic · 03-26-2012, 05:08 PM

It was a good handling car *in it's day*. In modern times it is pretty much outclassed by anything. 3500 pounds is a lot of weight to be throwing around corners, regardless of power.

Unless you are planning on rebuilding the 15 year old car's suspension and possibly engine - and of course dealing with the upkeep of a 15 year old turbo car which lived through the fast and furious craze which probably had double digit previous owners doing who knows what to it, stick with the FRS/BRZ.

JohnnyR · 03-26-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 86fanatic

It was a good handling car *in it's day*. In modern times it is pretty much outclassed by anything. 3500 pounds is a lot of weight to be throwing around corners, regardless of power.

Unless you are planning on rebuilding the 15 year old car's suspension and possibly engine - and of course dealing with the upkeep of a 15 year old turbo car which lived through the fast and furious craze which probably had double digit previous owners doing who knows what to it, stick with the FRS/BRZ.

The Supra Turbo in the 90's tested out at mid 4's to 5sec 0-60, .91-.95g handling. Those numbers today stand tall over many cars, including the 86. Once again, you like others seem to forget that the MKIV Supra can absolutely handle incredibly well, despite it's weight. This is something that needs to be addressed. Just because a car weights in over 3000lbs, doesn't mean it won't handle great.

Whilst true that to buy one now you'd have to do some overhauling on wear and tear, once "restored" (wow saying that for a 90's car), it would outclass the 86, easily, and decisively.

Not to mention it still looks good today. And, TARGA. It was and is still the last real Sports Car Toyota made. The LFA is an exotic/super car more than anything.

Sully · 03-26-2012, 06:21 PM

Nobody ever has any love for the MR-S/MR-2 Spyder.

7th gen celica GTS was quite a coupe, too.

03-22-2012, 06:20 PM	#1
Stunnerman Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2008 Toyota Aurion SX6 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FR-S vs MkIV Supra Hi, Anyone giving up their Supra for a FR-S/BRZ? I am in the market for a new DD and not sure which way I should go. I will only be doing bolt-ons and no plans for the track. I have viewed the PRO/CON on paper, but was hoping some members could provide some insight.

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Crashoverride here, there, any where Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: FR-S SOON!!! Location: Driver seat Posts: 287 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Search under "supra" or "MKIV" that should get you some good results, I for one am one of the guys coming from 4 supras to an FR-S, a 300hp whp FR-S is faster than a 400 whp supra. cheaper to get parts for, cheaper and over all new car. It's been talked to death, but good reads.

03-22-2012, 07:08 PM	#3
Stunnerman Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2008 Toyota Aurion SX6 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for that. I found a thread under general that I can read up on.

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racerkyo XIII Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 98 Supra na auto Location: Seattle Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I am selling my 98 supra na auto to get a brz.

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JohnnyR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 04 Evo 8 Location: PA Posts: 171 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No way in hell I'd give up a Turbo Supra for one of these, unless I had a couple to spare. The Supra is the last real sports car Toyota made (the LFA is a supercar, i guess), and even when the 86 hits, the Supra will continue to be the last real sports car they made. It's looks, inside and out, are timeless. It also handled incredibly well for it's time, and even by today's standards. It has a bunch of aftermarket support laying around to boot, and knowledge. It's an icon.

03-26-2012, 04:30 PM	#10
tree fingers Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: '93 FD3S Location: Indiana Posts: 121 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you're not planning on going to the track, and if you aren't planning on doing any serious, curvy sprited driving, I would go with the MKIV. Otherwise, I would suggest the FR-S/BRZ.

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86fanatic Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: auto Location: us Posts: 243 Thanks: 5 Thanked 43 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It was a good handling car in it's day. In modern times it is pretty much outclassed by anything. 3500 pounds is a lot of weight to be throwing around corners, regardless of power. Unless you are planning on rebuilding the 15 year old car's suspension and possibly engine - and of course dealing with the upkeep of a 15 year old turbo car which lived through the fast and furious craze which probably had double digit previous owners doing who knows what to it, stick with the FRS/BRZ.

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Sully Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: In the market for something fun Location: Texas Posts: 173 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nobody ever has any love for the MR-S/MR-2 Spyder. 7th gen celica GTS was quite a coupe, too.

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