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Old 11-17-2020, 07:14 PM   #505
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The real bet isn't the specs. It the color of the inevitable 1st special edition (...and the 20 that follow.)
Subaru? Blueish grey or greyish blue.
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Old 11-17-2020, 07:15 PM   #506
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I personally think Everyday Driver is awful.

I unsubscribed from them when they had videos driving their orange FRS and actually showed the tachometer and what gear they were in while saying it was slow. Like in one clip they said it was slow while in 5th gear going like mid-40s MPH well below like 3000 RPM (or somewhere in that range) on a straight section (I think it was also on a bit of an incline but could be wrong). Basically the most obvious, slow way to drive it.

So I had said something about that in the comments and then their producer responded to me and basically kept repeating that they did it that way on purpose to show how slow the car is.

I was just like, if you're going to own this car and then feed the "twins are slow argument" by driving it inaccurately on film, then you've lost all credibility.

And FWIW I really enjoyed their videos up until they did that.
I know what you're referring to and I think it was just to emphasize the dip / powerband and explain it better on camera. You can drop gears all you want but at its core the engine has the same powerband. To show that in a video while talking about it could be somewhat hard to do so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. They generally give the car positive reviews.
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Not even. Curb weight of BRZ Limited is 2798 lbs, and tS is 2833 lbs. Before I complain about any weight increase, I want to know where it came from

35lbs


Aero Package (Lip, Skirts, Spats, Under panel and the Spoiler)

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The 18" Enkie wheels.
The Flexible Draw Stiffener Assy.

4 added unibody chassis braces. (Firewall, rear deck, rear wheel wells.)


There might be more weight from the bushings, red interior, emblems/stickers and v-braces but that is really splitting hairs.
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I know what you're referring to and I think it was just to emphasize the dip / powerband and explain it better on camera. You can drop gears all you want but at its core the engine has the same powerband. To show that in a video while talking about it could be somewhat hard to do so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. They generally give the car positive reviews.
You may be right! But at the time it seemed like they just focused too much on that instead of also showing the other side of it.
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Now, if it was three feet long and you were using all that leverage
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35lbs


Aero Package (Lip, Skirts, Spats, Under panel and the Spoiler)

Performance Package's (Larger Rotors and Calipers On All Corners.)
The 18" Enkie wheels.
The Flexible Draw Stiffener Assy.

4 added unibody chassis braces. (Firewall, rear deck, rear wheel wells.)


There might be more weight from the bushings, red interior, emblems/stickers and v-braces but that is really splitting hairs.
We were referring to the 2880 lb estimate for the 2nd gen. If it is heavier than the 1st gen, I want to know where the weight went before I complain about it. Although I don't want it to weigh more, not all lbs are created equal; some weight might be a net benefit for certain buyers, while other weight is a waste. 20lbs of sound insulation for somebody that does a lot of highway would be worth it, but a competitive autocrosser will hate it. More durable CV joints will be appreciated by autocrossers, but wasted on the highway driver.

I would prefer if weight increases in certain components or structures were offset by weight reductions in others, but that strategy could lead to unacceptable cost increases. If they are targeting sub-$30k, there is a limit to what they can do. I personally would have no issue spending $2k to pull another 100lbs out of it, but I realize I'm probably in the minority.
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So when the hell do we get to see this turd again!?!?
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Old 11-17-2020, 09:05 PM   #511
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https://www.autoblog.com/2020/11/17/...z-live-reveal/

"What little we've heard suggests that most of the platform enhancements will come from Toyota's side of the twins' joint development program, while the powertrain will again be sourced from Subaru."

Funny, that is the opposite of what little I've heard.
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Any chance an auto rev matching toggle has been added to the MT?
with the drive-by-wire system, my car already does this with very minimal input. i blindly smash the gas pedal to the floor, let off, release the clutch, and it's magically at the right rpm!

if your cars not doing it, try being more violent about it
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Old 11-17-2020, 11:40 PM   #514
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a little more then 9 hrs away and still no leaks
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:09 AM   #515
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Nothing to leak and very few people care. It’s a mild update to a car with low sales volume.
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a little more then 9 hrs away and still no leaks
Only a couple of hours but a leak is a leak!


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