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So don't use impact guns or 6 foot pieces of pipe on your lug nuts. A person with a wheel wrench is NEVER going to tighten to the point of warping anything. Quote:
So... if you torqued then you should be good. Going back and retorqueing should not have any effect if you were properly torqued in the first place.
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Humfrz.. I love ya, man.. you're smart, fun, reasonable, and experienced... but I gotta put forth a few counterpoints. Be gentle...
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Anecdotally, I'm in 100% agreement with you; for the first 20 years of wrenching on cars, I never owned nor used a torque wrench, and I've never had a tire fall off, either. When I got further into engine work, I needed one, and I've never looked back. I like using it, and I'm a better judge of correct torque now when I'm helping someone else out and a torque wrench isn't available. The reasons FOR using one (increased accuracy and safety), to me, outweigh the reasons for not using one ("I don't need no steenking torque wrench," too expensive, convenience). Actually, I DID lose the wheel on a boat trailer once, but not because I didn't torque the lugnuts. I lost the wheel because I forgot to put ANY kind of wrench on them; I just hand-tightened them. Scary lesson to learn; fortunately, I was hauling a VERY small light boat, no one got hurt, and no damage was done. No offense, Humfrz. I tend to agree with you about Ivory Soap percentage of the time. (99 and 44/100%). Best, Barry |
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OK, I'll have to get back to you guys later.
I have to run my granddaughters up to school. I figure they will be safe from a wheel falling off ....... because I have a "locking" lug nut on each wheel ....... humfrz |
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Now those rotors may have got warped!
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1 - With our particular configuration it is impossible to warp the rotors by overtorquing the lug nuts
2 - On my race car I have to retorque the lugs after every race, and they have noticeably loosened, every single time. So heat + stress = loose lugs. If you never experience your lugs loosening maybe you dont drive your car very hard.
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It may be worth your time to safety wire those after you torque them. I imagine having some come off in the middle of a race would be a very bad thing.
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For that matter does everybody know what the torque should be for your particular wheels? Do you just use the rate given for the stock wheels? Is that proper for yours? Is not the torque given in the manual for stock wheels on street driven cars? If the exact torque is so vital then should it not vary with your set up?
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(#1 is check GAS as most of us have run out since we try to keep the tank close to empty). You will even see some that are late to the grid retorqueing their wheels in their helmet & Hans device, because they forgot. And I have a torque wrench that is JUST for my wheels. It is set at 92 lbs
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Well, @C4RBON and @MuseChaser and others, I will confess that ol humfrz must have gotten stuck back in the 50s ....again .....
After some research, I will agree, that these new fangled alloy wheels should be torqued again after a few miles of driving. So, I'm going to finish my piece of humble pie, go out and find my old torque wrench and check the wheels on my walker ...... then take a nap ..... humfrz |
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I always use a normal socket wrench to remove, and a torque wrench to install.
Why wouldn't you? Lazy? Bullshit. Wheel is your only connection to the road. You'd better care about its connection to your car. Torque the shit out of them to compensate? No. These lugs are so fragile, you have to treat them like little fairy princesses so they don't deform their threads and damage the studs. I yelled at my tuner for using an impact to remove them when putting the car on the dyno one too many times - lug -> ruined. |
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Now that I think about it - My racecar has lug centric wheels with the ball (spherical) seats. I would imagine that contributes a lot to the lugs working loose. As the wheels flex, the nature of the spherical seats might just make them more likely to loosen up. Ours are conical style, so maybe less prone to loosen? Also, at the track, the wheels are on/off the car frequently, so more cases where they havent "settled" yet.
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I use Tekton 3/8" and 1/2" torque wrenches from Amazon, no problems.
https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-24335-...+torque+wrench https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-24330-...+torque+wrench |
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