What is your opinion of getting an auto frs? - Page 7 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Struckbylitenin · 12-25-2014, 03:48 AM

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whataboutbob · 12-25-2014, 02:12 PM

Seriously, arguing about the transmission choice and putting people down for what they chose is lame.

Bergen23 · 12-25-2014, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

Seriously, arguing about the transmission choice and putting people down for what they chose is lame.

Just remember, if you didn't make the "right" transmission choice, you're wrong, your opinion doesn't matter and you're less of a person for it.

extrashaky · 12-25-2014, 03:06 PM

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艾洛 · 12-25-2014, 03:19 PM

The FR-S is one of the best for $:Fun ratio and if you`re driving the car as a daily and trying to enjoy it. The manual is a must, sure it will require more work in the beginning since the learning curve is steep for the first day or two but once you get the feeling of the clutch and timing those days will be behind you. After getting comfortable, you open a whole range of pedal techniques like double clutch and heel and toe. The fun never ends in a manual imo. (some people may say rush hour traffic can be a PIA)

But honestly, the key here is that it`s an FRS. You win regardless of the transmission and is really your choice but just make sure the reason you chose an auto is not because you`re afraid of the learning curve. You will regret not trying a stick shift all the way. Make the choice after driving a manual FRS hard.

V_86 · 12-25-2014, 03:49 PM

Like others have said, the key is preference. If you enjoy or want to learn manual, do it. If you don't there is an excellent auto transmission (I'm biased). However, unless you've lived in Southern California, you really have no idea how bad REALLY bad traffic is, and when it's your daily commute, there are some compromises to make. But it's an FRS/BRZ/GT86. There is no "bad" option, especially once you experience this chassis on a twisty road.

mav1178 · 12-25-2014, 04:02 PM

I feel like this is like a subset of people arguing whether the FRS or BRZ is better.

In the end: who gives a shit? It's your car, enjoy it how you want. No need to ask for peer validation unless you also rely on us to select wheel color, tire tread pattern, car color, which coilover is better.....

o wait.

rxlynn · 12-25-2014, 04:29 PM

I really wanted the manual because 1) last car was an automatic and I found it very boring to drive. 2) Husband (not a car person) insisted for at least 6 months that "nobody made stick shifts anymore" and I got tired of defending 3) I liked supporting a company who would actually make this car. The only times I have wished for an auto have been in very heavy traffic (which I typically only do once a week) and sometimes when I am really tired.

Lunatic · 12-25-2014, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178

I feel like this is like a subset of people arguing whether the FRS or BRZ is better.

In the end: who gives a shit? It's your car, enjoy it how you want.

You got that right!

Bergen23 · 12-25-2014, 05:20 PM

@rxlynn your 3rd point doesn't really make sense in the debate between auto vs manual

FRiSson · 12-25-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mini Cooper S

Manual transmission master race! #savethemanuals

Geez, you almost make me ashamed to drive a manual.

iag48st · 12-25-2014, 08:18 PM

Previously owned cars: 2011 civic si , 2010 mk6 GTI with DSG and now AT 86, and 1993 Miata 5spd manual.

I daily drive my Miata in NYC traffic and I hate balancing clutch/gas to constantly crawl forward, especially on slopes in bumper to bumper. I bought the AT FRS because the transmission is GREAT! I always drive in manual mode because I like to "control" what gear I'm in. I can't comment on the paddles because I always use the shift knob since I'm used to driving manual. The AT changes gears in 200ms despite not being a DSG. The automatic rev match is AWESOME and addicting ; 90% of the time I engine brake.

The only reason the auto is slower in a circuit is because of the tall gearing. Which I will be addressing with 4.55 gears as soon as I find a cheap set.

I can do donuts, burn outs and brake stands. The only thing I can't do is clutch kicks, and clutch dumps but I wouldn't do them anyway if I had a manual. I prefer to use the hand brake.

V_86 · 12-25-2014, 09:34 PM

What iag48st said. Although I do find the stock auto has some cooling issues, as it tends to buck when upshifting after running hot, at least for me.

iag48st · 12-25-2014, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_86

What iag48st said. Although I do find the stock auto has some cooling issues, as it tends to buck when upshifting after running hot, at least for me.

I haven't tracked my 86 yet so I don't know about the heating issue.

12-25-2014, 03:19 PM	#89
艾洛 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: Raven Location: Canada Posts: 123 Thanks: 13 Thanked 39 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The FR-S is one of the best for $:Fun ratio and if you`re driving the car as a daily and trying to enjoy it. The manual is a must, sure it will require more work in the beginning since the learning curve is steep for the first day or two but once you get the feeling of the clutch and timing those days will be behind you. After getting comfortable, you open a whole range of pedal techniques like double clutch and heel and toe. The fun never ends in a manual imo. (some people may say rush hour traffic can be a PIA) But honestly, the key here is that it`s an FRS. You win regardless of the transmission and is really your choice but just make sure the reason you chose an auto is not because you`re afraid of the learning curve. You will regret not trying a stick shift all the way. Make the choice after driving a manual FRS hard. __________________ Adventures of Iroh

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12-25-2014, 03:48 AM	#85
Struckbylitenin Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 10 Series FR-S Location: S. Jerz / Philly Posts: 254 Thanks: 41 Thanked 121 Times in 67 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	when I click on one of these threads, I go in knowing...

12-25-2014, 03:06 PM	#88
extrashaky Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ Limited Location: USA Posts: 4,045 Thanks: 1,100 Thanked 5,618 Times in 2,266 Posts Mentioned: 55 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Tampon Dispenser (For Automatic Vehicles) Only $56!

12-25-2014, 03:49 PM	#90
V_86 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2015 Asphalt FR-S Location: SoCal Posts: 304 Thanks: 71 Thanked 83 Times in 52 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Like others have said, the key is preference. If you enjoy or want to learn manual, do it. If you don't there is an excellent auto transmission (I'm biased). However, unless you've lived in Southern California, you really have no idea how bad REALLY bad traffic is, and when it's your daily commute, there are some compromises to make. But it's an FRS/BRZ/GT86. There is no "bad" option, especially once you experience this chassis on a twisty road.

12-25-2014, 04:02 PM	#91
mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I feel like this is like a subset of people arguing whether the FRS or BRZ is better. In the end: who gives a shit? It's your car, enjoy it how you want. No need to ask for peer validation unless you also rely on us to select wheel color, tire tread pattern, car color, which coilover is better..... o wait.

12-25-2014, 04:29 PM	#92
rxlynn Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2015 BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Northeast GA Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I really wanted the manual because 1) last car was an automatic and I found it very boring to drive. 2) Husband (not a car person) insisted for at least 6 months that "nobody made stick shifts anymore" and I got tired of defending 3) I liked supporting a company who would actually make this car. The only times I have wished for an auto have been in very heavy traffic (which I typically only do once a week) and sometimes when I am really tired.

12-25-2014, 05:20 PM	#94
Bergen23 Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: '15 Halo FR-S Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,317 Thanks: 922 Thanked 950 Times in 492 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@rxlynn your 3rd point doesn't really make sense in the debate between auto vs manual

12-25-2014, 08:18 PM	#96
iag48st Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 10Series 0945 Location: NYC Posts: 252 Thanks: 35 Thanked 98 Times in 51 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Previously owned cars: 2011 civic si , 2010 mk6 GTI with DSG and now AT 86, and 1993 Miata 5spd manual. I daily drive my Miata in NYC traffic and I hate balancing clutch/gas to constantly crawl forward, especially on slopes in bumper to bumper. I bought the AT FRS because the transmission is GREAT! I always drive in manual mode because I like to "control" what gear I'm in. I can't comment on the paddles because I always use the shift knob since I'm used to driving manual. The AT changes gears in 200ms despite not being a DSG. The automatic rev match is AWESOME and addicting ; 90% of the time I engine brake. The only reason the auto is slower in a circuit is because of the tall gearing. Which I will be addressing with 4.55 gears as soon as I find a cheap set. I can do donuts, burn outs and brake stands. The only thing I can't do is clutch kicks, and clutch dumps but I wouldn't do them anyway if I had a manual. I prefer to use the hand brake.

12-25-2014, 09:34 PM	#97
V_86 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2015 Asphalt FR-S Location: SoCal Posts: 304 Thanks: 71 Thanked 83 Times in 52 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What iag48st said. Although I do find the stock auto has some cooling issues, as it tends to buck when upshifting after running hot, at least for me.

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