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Old 08-02-2023, 04:07 PM   #1
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Trying to diagnose a noise from the rear

So about a year ago I had a clicking noise coming from the back of my car. I messed up and misdiagnosed it as a bad axle and replaced both of the axles with Autozone axles (I don't know what I was thinking). The noise turned out to be something inside of the tire. Anyway after replacing the axles I got a different noise, a squeaking when shifting in lower gears, taking off from a stop and going over bumps. I sounds similar to the squeak you get from the AC but it's louder and is coming from the rear. It's louder with the windows down. It also seems to be worse when the car is warm. I thought it was just the Autozone Axles being shit so I put my stock ones back in but I still had the noise. The car drives completely fine I've done like 4 autocrosses and 2kish miles but the noise seems like it's geting worse. Lately I've noticed that I sometimes get the squeak noise when moving the gear lever into second as in it squeaks before I let the clutch out. I've torque checked all the rear suspension bolts and the axle nuts and given everything a good firm shake. Everything feels solid there's a little bit of play in the axle shafts but I don't know how much play is normal for those. Could the diff seals or c clips have gotten messed up when I installed the axles? There's no fluid leaking.
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YIKES - that problem is waaay over my pay grade. I guess that rocks in the hub caps is not a problem anymore -

However, I will ring up ol @Ultramaroon for you. He is good with weird funny sounds.

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So about a year ago I had a clicking noise coming from the back of my car. I messed up and misdiagnosed it as a bad axle and replaced both of the axles with Autozone axles (I don't know what I was thinking). The noise turned out to be something inside of the tire. Anyway after replacing the axles I got a different noise, a squeaking when shifting in lower gears, taking off from a stop and going over bumps. I sounds similar to the squeak you get from the AC but it's louder and is coming from the rear. It's louder with the windows down. It also seems to be worse when the car is warm. I thought it was just the Autozone Axles being shit so I put my stock ones back in but I still had the noise. The car drives completely fine I've done like 4 autocrosses and 2kish miles but the noise seems like it's geting worse. Lately I've noticed that I sometimes get the squeak noise when moving the gear lever into second as in it squeaks before I let the clutch out. I've torque checked all the rear suspension bolts and the axle nuts and given everything a good firm shake. Everything feels solid there's a little bit of play in the axle shafts but I don't know how much play is normal for those. Could the diff seals or c clips have gotten messed up when I installed the axles? There's no fluid leaking.
Can you post a video with the sound? Our ears are better than our eyes at figuring out noises. But that's just my opinion.
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I may have a similar issue that popped up after I installed a new clutch. When you hear it taking off from a stop, does it only happen if you are at low rpms?
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Alright I know this is quite delayed but here's a video. I was out of town helping my sister move then I had to move myself. I guess the noise is more of a click than a squeak. You may have to turn the volume up to hear it in the video but in real life it's clear as day.
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I may have a similar issue that popped up after I installed a new clutch. When you hear it taking off from a stop, does it only happen if you are at low rpms?
Define low rpms. I never really go above 2k if I'm taking off from a stop. I hear it taking off at 1500 all the time. I've also heard it going around slow corners at autocross don't know the exact rpm but probably around 3k. It's also posible that the noise is still happening at higher rpm but the engine in addition to other noises just drown it out.
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Why do I hear what sounds like a power steering pump that's low on fluid? That's really all that stands out to me.
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Why do I hear what sounds like a power steering pump that's low on fluid? That's really all that stands out to me.
That's a great question the car just started sounding like that one day when I turned it on. I have whiteline diff transmission and subframe inserts which create some gear whine so I didn't think that much of it. You might have to turn the volume way up and or wear headphones to hear the clicking. It's much more obvious in real life.
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That's a great question the car just started sounding like that one day when I turned it on. I have whiteline diff transmission and subframe inserts which create some gear whine so I didn't think that much of it. You might have to turn the volume way up and or wear headphones to hear the clicking. It's much more obvious in real life.
I think I hear the glassy ticking sound. Is that what you mean? Like tapping on a glass with a metal spoon? That's likely an under-torqued axle nut. The hub splines aren't manufactured very accurately. They depend (too much, IMO) on the nut being tightly cinched.


The whine sounds like it's from something driven by the accessory belt.
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Yup. That's it.
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Get new nuts and don't spare the torque.
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Thanks I'll try that. Any idea how long do the alternators last on these cars? I'm wondering if the power steering pump noise could be caused by the alternator going out
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The original alternators are pretty stout. It could be a single shorted diode in the rectifier block. I think you would hear the ripple current over the radio. Does it quit whining when the regulator is disconnected? It might throw a code when you do it but meh. It's a valid test.
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