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Old 10-31-2014, 09:55 PM   #15
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Rod bearing failure....oil starvation most likely. With the high number of posts he has I feel he may be a troll.
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Old 10-31-2014, 10:17 PM   #16
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Mileage on car? When was last oil change and last time you actually checked the oil? I bet you were pretty low....
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Old 11-01-2014, 04:25 AM   #17
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Seriously, I can't tell you how many times I wish the powertrain in the FRS was straight from Toyota....I had a new Subaru Outback die on the wife and I during a test drive for crying out loud...
There’s a whole 0.06% difference in failure rates according to AutoExpress - 14.62% of Subaru v’s 14.56% of Toyota owners reporting mechanical problems in the first 3 years. So, yeah… should have been 100% Toyota drive train, absolutely.
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Old 11-01-2014, 08:41 AM   #18
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Oh, BS. You want to tell me that this boxer engine sounds much better than a MR2 engine or that much more advanced? Maybe that's the reason why Lotus put a toyota engine in their elise, because of the old technology.

On the center gravity part, yes it was a great choice! But to say that subary engines are so much more advanced than toyota engines would be wrong in my opinion.

Frankly i am not surprised of the issues the FA20 platform is having. When your joining two companies efforts together is bound to happen. The communication between the two engineering groups cannot be flawless and some items will be overlooked...
Whoa now. the boxer engine sounds like a tractor. Not sure where you got that I like the boxer sound or that I think subaru engines are so much more advanced. The engine is a boxer with 2 types of injectors per cylinder. That alone sounds complex enough.

And I was talking about any modern day commercial toyota with their engine+transmission+chassis pairings.

The scion tC is typically made form the previous camry manufacturing process. The corolla chassis design is from what, 2001? I don't recall of the top of my head but its definitely not new. Hell, if you get an automatic corolla, it comes with a 4spd automatic. The list goes on.

All I'm saying is this. Driving a toyota is a tradeoff. You get rock solid reliability since they barely change anything but its nowhere as fun as Toyota as a company could make things.
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Old 11-01-2014, 09:25 AM   #19
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There’s a whole 0.06% difference in failure rates according to AutoExpress - 14.62% of Subaru v’s 14.56% of Toyota owners reporting mechanical problems in the first 3 years. So, yeah… should have been 100% Toyota drive train, absolutely.
Really.. Worthless numbers considering that toyota must sell 15 times the amount of cars that subaru sells..
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Old 11-01-2014, 10:07 AM   #20
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Really.. Worthless numbers considering that toyota must sell 15 times the amount of cars that subaru sells..
So you think that if Subaru sold more cars, the percentage of owners reporting problems would change?
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Well this turned in to a shit storm fast.
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So you think that if Subaru sold more cars, the percentage of owners reporting problems would change?
Yes.. Cause they would have way more stupid people than the toyota buyers..
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I wanna see pics of this blown engine. Also, I want to know how it's going to be handled by Subaru.
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Surprised this is rod 2 and not rod 4.
Why's that?
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@stonenewt

That numerical difference is significant from an engineering perspective, so I'm not quite sure what you are laughing about. Regardless, the statistics still favor Toyota quality.

Further, Toyota (and its offshoots) ranks above Subaru in a variety of quality metrics year after year.

Anecdotally, my family has had Toyota vehicles run well into 150,000 plus mile territory with nary a problem. I have probably test driven well over 10 Toyota vehicles over the years; not one of them died on me during the test drive like the sole Subaru we test drove.

So yeah, I would rather have a Toyota powertrain...
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Whoa now. the boxer engine sounds like a tractor.

All I'm saying is this. Driving a toyota is a tradeoff. You get rock solid reliability since they barely change anything but its nowhere as fun as Toyota as a company could make things.
I don't know...I really enjoyed the older MR2's I drove, and the 97 TT Supra I had the pleasure of taking out one afternoon....
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Will I get more miles out of it if I rebadge?
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:42 PM   #28
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across forester, wrx, and twins this engine seems to have a decent amount of problems even stock. so i agree I would also prefer a decent toyota engine.
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