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12-20-2022, 02:00 PM | #1 |
Racecomp Engineering Superstreet 2 coilovers available now (RCE SS2)
You asked and we listened. We've been really excited to hear all the positive feedback on our SS1 coilovers over the past 4 years. Great ride quality and solid performance...a phenomenal 4 season road & track type coilover. But we know many of you wanted something a bit more on the track side, with a little more edge to them. Something with the same high quality damper valving, suspension travel, lowering front camber plates, but add rear lowering upper mounts, firmer valving, and stiffer spring rates. So we've been quietly working with KW Suspension and are excited to finally release our SS2 coilovers! Development was performed on both first and second gen cars with enough flexibility for a range of tire choices, drivers, and supporting modifications. While it's a little more track focused, this coilover suspension is still very capable of being daily-driven, and with the pre-installed front camber plates and rear pillowball lowering mounts, the whole kit is completely plug-and-play. No assembly required. These camber plates and rear mounts are some of the best out there in our opinion, with a lowering design that adds bump travel as well as a high quality bearing that's sealed on the bottom for long-lasting quiet operation. Features:
These are live on our website now. |
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12-20-2022, 02:01 PM | #2 |
We wanted the same "easy button" type of coilover as our SS1, but for someone that finds themselves at the track or autocrossing more often. No complicated set up, no annoying day to day compromises, and all the usual RCE after-sale support.
You can think of these as sort of a simplified RCE Tarmac 2 for those who don't necessarily need 2 way damping adjustability, but with the benefit of camber plates and rear top mounts included. Our T2s are still a great solution for those that do want 2 way damping adjustability or the option to run OEM style mounts. Happy to answer any questions you may have. - Andrew |
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12-20-2022, 03:21 PM | #3 |
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Why the lowering range difference between SS1 (20-50 mm) and SS2 (10-30 mm)?
Would these work with the OEM rear mounts? If so, I think it would be nice to have that option (like with SS1) for people that want to save some money and don't need the aftermarket mounts. |
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Did y'all work with Eibach for these springs? Any plans to continue working on the RallyX springs now that these are out?
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12-20-2022, 04:25 PM | #6 | |
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Haven't forgotten about the rally springs though! Will post something about those soon (not a big update, but an update). - Andrew |
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I was just browsing your site! It seems chapters are missing from the damper series, which I otherwise enjoyed...
Not to question of it's justified, what goes into the price increase over the SS1 kit? Why does the more "track focused" kit have a smaller lowering range? Why do you list the spring rates of some kits in US Customary Units and others in metric? Why have the damping adjustment be rebound only, rather than a combination of compression and rebound? How/why do the SS1s have more compression travel than stock? Do the SS2s? What are the servicing requirements? Warranty? Thanks! |
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Same total travel for SS1 and SS2. 3 year warranty. Good thing about KW dampers is they last a long time and are very durable. With more track time comes more frequent rebuilds, but we still see people getting 50k miles and more out of well worked RCE SS1 and RCE Tarmac 2s. Anytime. We pride ourselves on being available and responsive. Sometimes we do things like have both metric and imperial units on our website but you can reach us by phone almost anytime, 7 days a week or just PM me. Apologies if I explained any of that poorly. - Andrew |
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12-20-2022, 06:27 PM | #9 |
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You forgot to mention they will take a stiffer spring then the SS1.
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"...using the KW 7 post shake rig, track time, etc. to really dial these in for a level up in performance."
Interesting. Did you actually do simulated laps on the 7 post rig for damper tuning? Or, if it's durability testing, why does KW need to redo 7 post rig testing for each aftermarket application? I would have expected them to have all the load capabilities/limitations proven before they market the dampers to you. And are the SS2s tested to a higher standard than the SS1s or fewer sales to spread the costs over? "It's the same and I should change that on the website. We don't recommend slamming a track focused car (most of the time)...25 to 30mm is the right spot." How do you pick a ride height to recommend? And why recommend lowering for the "street focused" set? "If you have to choose 1, you choose rebound." And so you did... but why? "Our coilovers are designed with a shock body that is designed to be lower than stock from the start...you can see how the body extends down below the lower mount. This in conjunction with the lowering style camber plate which extends the upper mounting point higher means more room for things to come together. So even when lower the stock, you have the compression travel. Factory shocks have plenty of droop travel, but are limited in compression travel (plus use a longer bumpstop). Interesting - I'd have expected OEMs to use the full bump travel permitted by the tire envelope. Other than rewarding your charming forum participation, what's your sales pitch for the Superstreets over competitors? For example, the CSG Spec Tein Flex A has the same spring rates as the SS1, also has rebound adjustability, also includes camber plates, and is the same price or cheaper, depending on sales. (And CSG is also active on fora...) Thanks again! |
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Thank you for the kind words about my charming personality! I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to a sales pitch, we just make parts that we think are cool and functional and what we ourselves or our customers want. We've been working with this platform since before it came out (~10 years), working with KW for ~15 years, and on Subarus for more than 20 years. CSG certainly know their way around these cars too and have plenty of happy customers. There are a lot of companies that sell parts for these cars. There are fewer that specialize in suspension, fewer still that know what they're doing, and then only a couple that provide real support. CSG is good company to be in. - Andrew |
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I'm curious about the maximum ride height. I'd like to run these higher than the recommended 25mm drop. Ideally closer to 10mm drop from stock height. Wondering that's feasible and if there are any differences in max ride height between SS1 and SS2?
Can you also comment any more on ride quality? With the stiffer springs I'm guessing it's not quite as comfortable on the street as the SS1, but wondering how much of a difference there is. |
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