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wbradley · 08-13-2021, 08:25 AM

It looks really good and aside from screeching around on the Primacys, seems to handle at least as well as the first gen.

On the one hand I'd love to trade to the 2nd gen and on the other there's Ohlins, full exhaust, HKS supercharger, wheel tire and brake upgrades and custom dyno tuning that significantly surpasses anything from the showroom.

I could trade my '18 STI for the upgrade model but that means winter car going from a 4dr awd to a 2dr rwd.

Thefalls · 08-13-2021, 01:45 PM

The 'headache' is for those people with a modded first gen that is already on par with the 2nd gen in terms of performance.

A stock first gen owner when comparing to the 2nd gen will most probably upgrade with ease as the 2nd gen is like a modded first gen with bolt ons.

I believe if you have invested a lot in the first gen already and have considerable power then it won't really be an upgrade. It will be mostly for looks and fresh car 'feeling'.

Sure, some stuff will carry over, like wheels and coilovers. But to achieve the same power as FI will need further investments as in supercharger/turbo plus tuning. The aftermarket will catch up eventually and in the mean time you will have to enjoy it in NA form.

Maybe its better to wait till all the bugs are ironed out and get later versions as its a different engine.

Pete · 08-14-2021, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Akina

Check out 3:55 to 4:15, he comes around a corner and goes WOT down a straight, and a couple things stand out to me:

1. the smirk as he comes around the corner, lol

2. the engine noise sounds progressive as it goes up in revs (doesn't have an audible lag where the torque dip was in the 1st gen)

3. the look he gives the dash and the face he makes at the camera as he hits near the top of 3rd gear.

It's mainly #3 that is making me a little more excited for monday's reviews. He is not exactly "commenting" but that face says a lot. It looks to me like he is surprised at how hard the car is pulling, and I hope I am right about that. lol.

timurrrr · 08-14-2021, 12:54 PM

I met Jason Cammisa at Laguna Seca the other day and we had a nice chat about various cars.
When I asked if he drove the new BRZ, his eyes started shining with excitement and told me to wait for the Hagerty video on the 17th.

Pete · 08-14-2021, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by timurrrr

I met Jason Cammisa at Laguna Seca the other day and we had a nice chat about various cars.
When I asked if he drove the new BRZ, his eyes started shining with excitement and told me to wait for the Hagerty video on the 17th.

Cammisa + Hagerty have been killing it lately, lots of really good content on YouTube.

PulsarBeeerz · 08-14-2021, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Thefalls

The 'headache' is for those people with a modded first gen that is already on par with the 2nd gen in terms of performance.

A stock first gen owner when comparing to the 2nd gen will most probably upgrade with ease as the 2nd gen is like a modded first gen with bolt ons.

I believe if you have invested a lot in the first gen already and have considerable power then it won't really be an upgrade. It will be mostly for looks and fresh car 'feeling'.

Sure, some stuff will carry over, like wheels and coilovers. But to achieve the same power as FI will need further investments as in supercharger/turbo plus tuning. The aftermarket will catch up eventually and in the mean time you will have to enjoy it in NA form.

Maybe its better to wait till all the bugs are ironed out and get later versions as its a different engine.

I don't think there is a headache. Many of those folks myself included have concluded, that it isn't worth the upgrade/debt. Modded paid off vehicles and all. The next performance vehicle personally would have to be a significant jump in capability. I'm almost old enough for a C7, no New Balances just Nikes.

ayau · 08-14-2021, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timurrrr

I met Jason Cammisa at Laguna Seca the other day and we had a nice chat about various cars.
When I asked if he drove the new BRZ, his eyes started shining with excitement and told me to wait for the Hagerty video on the 17th.

I wonder if the journalist at the event could even talk to each other about their driving impressions. The cat is already out of the bag if you’re fluent in Japanese.

alex87f · 08-14-2021, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by timurrrr

I met Jason Cammisa at Laguna Seca the other day and we had a nice chat about various cars.
When I asked if he drove the new BRZ, his eyes started shining with excitement and told me to wait for the Hagerty video on the 17th.

Is he really obnoxious IRL, or is it just his internet persona?

Ernest72 · 08-14-2021, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz

I don't think there is a headache. Many of those folks myself included have concluded, that it isn't worth the upgrade/debt. Modded paid off vehicles and all. The next performance vehicle personally would have to be a significant jump in capability. I'm almost old enough for a C7, no New Balances just Nikes.

I am with you. Keep my DD 16 BRZ and put that money into other things. Making my 04 WRX faster or another car. I do want to drive one just to see, would love to drive one with bolt ons and a tune in the future, just to see. If I was up for a car it would be on the list for sure.

timurrrr · 08-14-2021, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alex87f

Is he really obnoxious IRL, or is it just his internet persona?

Yeah, he's definitely acting in videos

He's a great guy to talk with IRL.

Veloist · 08-15-2021, 05:04 PM

When does the embargo end???

12:00 AM tonight???

Man I can’t wait.

Sport-Tech · 08-15-2021, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Veloist

When does the embargo end???

12:00 AM tonight???

Man I can’t wait.

Often an embargo ends at 8am ET.

Blighty · 08-16-2021, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz

I don't think there is a headache. Many of those folks myself included have concluded, that it isn't worth the upgrade/debt. Modded paid off vehicles and all. The next performance vehicle personally would have to be a significant jump in capability. I'm almost old enough for a C7, no New Balances just Nikes.

There will be another generation of modders on this final gen of the car for sure though. It will be interesting what headers, E85 and a tube get, its not exactly going to break the bank for that, and potentially put out similar levels to what the GR Yaris is stock (268hp at the crank)

Jianlun · 08-16-2021, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Blighty

There will be another generation of modders on this final gen of the car for sure though. It will be interesting what headers, E85 and a tube get, its not exactly going to break the bank for that, and potentially put out similar levels to what the GR Yaris is stock (268hp at the crank)

Last NA dino (or corn) juice analogue(ish) FR car. I will take whatever I can tune out of it. Hahaha. Hmmmm, ITB cable throttle anyone...

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Thefalls Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: Corolla GT Location: Sunny place. Posts: 208 Thanks: 371 Thanked 118 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	The 'headache' is for those people with a modded first gen that is already on par with the 2nd gen in terms of performance. A stock first gen owner when comparing to the 2nd gen will most probably upgrade with ease as the 2nd gen is like a modded first gen with bolt ons. I believe if you have invested a lot in the first gen already and have considerable power then it won't really be an upgrade. It will be mostly for looks and fresh car 'feeling'. Sure, some stuff will carry over, like wheels and coilovers. But to achieve the same power as FI will need further investments as in supercharger/turbo plus tuning. The aftermarket will catch up eventually and in the mean time you will have to enjoy it in NA form. Maybe its better to wait till all the bugs are ironed out and get later versions as its a different engine.

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