Question - Coilovers St XTA vs Tein flex A CSG - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

WicK3DM · 09-21-2021, 06:27 PM

Hello, I have an issue to decide which coilovers to get i tried to ask some people that i know but 2 of them told me that Tein is shit and they will never use them and 2 others told me that St is shit.
No one that i know have the ST XTA coilovers on the brz and the only guy who have the Tein Flex A CSG have force induction so i cant really tell how i will fill on my car.
Im using the car for daily so i need pretty soft coilvers and going to track days like once in 3 months but the car drive like 80-100 km daily.
Need your opinion

NoHaveMSG · 09-21-2021, 06:45 PM

ST are made by KW. So whoever said that doesn't know what they are talking about. They have soft springs for doing regular track days, periodically they may be okay. They also don't have camber plates.

The Flex A's come with camber plates and have hydraulic bottom out bumpers. They are pretty good for the price.

Here is the CSG Flex A owners thread full of happy customers.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126107

Yoshoobaroo · 09-21-2021, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

ST are made by KW. - They also don't have camber plates.

They definitely do have camber plates:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...60&postcount=4

For more mass market cars (BMWs for example) they come in 3 flavors:

ST X: height adjustable
ST XA: height and rebound adjustable
ST XTA: height and rebound adjustable with camber plates

So ST has 3 levels of coilovers, but only one of them is available for the 86, probably not enough volume. The XTA for this platform comes with spring rates between the KW V3 and Clubsport, 6kg/mm front and 5kg/mm rear. Very similar to the CSG spec Teins.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100030

NoHaveMSG · 09-21-2021, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

They definitely do have camber plates:

I think I have been corrected on that before now that I see a picture of them.

Yoshoobaroo · 09-21-2021, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

I think I have been corrected on that before now that I see a picture of them.

WicK3DM · 09-22-2021, 03:48 AM

I got a better price on the st and someone told me that the are better for daily drive, so it doesnt matter the tein flex a csg and st xta are pretty simillar?

Thefalls · 09-22-2021, 04:48 AM

The ST XTA has been reviewed already but there not many people who have bought them and reviewed here.

Most of the time they are ST X owners. Somewhere I have read that unto some years the ST X and XTAs were not having the same type of struts and then KW switched to "wet filled".

The ST XTA seem to be a good buy though.

You have bought them already?

So I take it that you will give us a nice long review ?

Thanks.

WicK3DM · 09-23-2021, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thefalls

The ST XTA has been reviewed already but there not many people who have bought them and reviewed here.

Most of the time they are ST X owners. Somewhere I have read that unto some years the ST X and XTAs were not having the same type of struts and then KW switched to "wet filled".

The ST XTA seem to be a good buy though.

You have bought them already?

So I take it that you will give us a nice long review ?

Thanks.

Hey no didn't bought them just looking i will try today the tein flex a csg but i cant try the st xta so im looking for review as well haha

CB750F · 09-30-2021, 09:01 AM

I have ST XTA for about 3 yrs now. I do a little track but mostly autoX.
I'm new to tracking/autoX since 2015, I'm almost retired, I run mid pack at autoX events & run almost dead last on track days. So, what do I know.
Unlike Niki Lauda, God did not give me a good ass.
I bought them cuz they were on sale, I know, this has to be the top reason to buy anything, right? Then 2nd reason to buy, the looks of a lower car, 2 swings, 2 misses...
Oh! There are these little adjustable nobs on top to ... do something? I have not
adjusted them much. All I can say is on softest setting they are a little harder then
OEM. I really have nothing to compare them with but OEM & I have no issues, I like them. BTW other people I know who have the same car & are much faster then me have them & like them.
Looks like we use our cars in a similar way, so I hope this helps you. After all, these
are KW's, these are not shit.

09-21-2021, 06:27 PM	#1
WicK3DM Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Drives: Blue 2016 brz Location: Israel Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Question - Coilovers St XTA vs Tein flex A CSG Hello, I have an issue to decide which coilovers to get i tried to ask some people that i know but 2 of them told me that Tein is shit and they will never use them and 2 others told me that St is shit. No one that i know have the ST XTA coilovers on the brz and the only guy who have the Tein Flex A CSG have force induction so i cant really tell how i will fill on my car. Im using the car for daily so i need pretty soft coilvers and going to track days like once in 3 months but the car drive like 80-100 km daily. Need your opinion

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WicK3DM Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Drives: Blue 2016 brz Location: Israel Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I got a better price on the st and someone told me that the are better for daily drive, so it doesnt matter the tein flex a csg and st xta are pretty simillar?

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Thefalls Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: Corolla GT Location: Sunny place. Posts: 208 Thanks: 371 Thanked 118 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	The ST XTA has been reviewed already but there not many people who have bought them and reviewed here. Most of the time they are ST X owners. Somewhere I have read that unto some years the ST X and XTAs were not having the same type of struts and then KW switched to "wet filled". The ST XTA seem to be a good buy though. You have bought them already? So I take it that you will give us a nice long review ? Thanks.

09-30-2021, 09:01 AM	#9
CB750F Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2015 BRZ WRB Location: Great White North Posts: 121 Thanks: 12 Thanked 73 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have ST XTA for about 3 yrs now. I do a little track but mostly autoX. I'm new to tracking/autoX since 2015, I'm almost retired, I run mid pack at autoX events & run almost dead last on track days. So, what do I know. Unlike Niki Lauda, God did not give me a good ass. I bought them cuz they were on sale, I know, this has to be the top reason to buy anything, right? Then 2nd reason to buy, the looks of a lower car, 2 swings, 2 misses... Oh! There are these little adjustable nobs on top to ... do something? I have not adjusted them much. All I can say is on softest setting they are a little harder then OEM. I really have nothing to compare them with but OEM & I have no issues, I like them. BTW other people I know who have the same car & are much faster then me have them & like them. Looks like we use our cars in a similar way, so I hope this helps you. After all, these are KW's, these are not shit.

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