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Dadhawk · 04-18-2022, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Am I having a stroke?

I noticed the same thing, but decided to read between the lines, since I thought it was pretty clear what he meant.

WolfpackS2k · 04-18-2022, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Am I having a stroke?

I'm still dealing with head injuries from wrecking in our GT7 races last weekend

I meant if you're smart enough to use snow tires (which you should somewhere with four seasons), then AWD is still a better solution.

soundman98 · 04-18-2022, 08:28 PM

4wd allows me to stop better.

Captain Snooze · 04-19-2022, 01:42 AM

lol

Dake · 04-19-2022, 10:55 AM

Probably won't even be able to see the brake pads on this, so I'm out.

Sasquachulator · 04-19-2022, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dake

Probably won't even be able to see the brake pads on this, so I'm out.

I think it uses the deal breaking BMW style turn "goes back to neutral position" signals too.....
Plus i think it only does 0-60 in around 5 seconds? Dead on Arrival......

One step forward...several steps back....

cmon toyota, do better!

soundman98 · 04-19-2022, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

lol

i was serious.

Captain Snooze · 04-20-2022, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98

i was serious.

oh.
I had better watch the videos.

Captain Snooze · 04-20-2022, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by soundman98

i was serious.

I watched the first 2 videos. The explanation in the 2nd video made sense.
I am not going to post in the TIL thread even though I did.

Dadhawk · 04-20-2022, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I watched the first 2 videos. The explanation in the 2nd video made sense.
I am not going to post in the TIL thread even though I did.

On the first one, I question the validity of test 1 and 2. He locks up all four wheels in both tests, so not sure what advantage 4WD would give you there.

Ultimately I would expect 4WD to be an advantage over 2WD, either front or rear. That just means the limits are different and you have to drive differently to be safe. I would never drive a 2WD vehicle at the same speed, distance, etc as I would a 4WD in those conditions.

That doesn't mean I couldn't drive them both safely.

mn_ca · 04-20-2022, 04:10 PM

Driven FWD beaters for the last 20 years in our beautiful MN winters. Yet to have any issues. I do have my Taco but I don't use it. The only time I use it is when I'm hauling stuff to the compost site

I just don't find any interest in 4WD or AWD, though my wife does drive an AWD SUV. But then, it's the wife

Sasquachulator · 04-21-2022, 10:52 AM

Ive driven mostly FWD in winter, its all about the tires.
Anywhere i would have gotten stuck, ANY car would have gotten stuck.

AWD is the easiest and most reliable because you got 4 wheels of traction to rely on.
They're usually equipped on cars with high ground clearances, which also helps.

So far RWD has been the most tricky out of all 3, and i think it has alot to do with less weight being on the rear wheels (since most FWD cars are like 70/30 or so F-R weight distribution). I can definately feel the rear tires dont have as much traction as its theres not as much weight back there and it can kick out sideways pretty easily during acceleration. (all about throttle control)

But i do notice people dont really know how to drive in winter here......

-People don't seem to understand the concept of "rocking" the car when you are stuck. Instead they just gun the gas pedal, spinning the wheels at like 5000rpm, dont go anywhere and actually make things worse.

Instead you should be pressing the throttle and feel the car inch forward (or backwards) until the tire hits the bank of snow it cant clear, then release the gas and let it roll back till the tire hits the other end and as it rolls forward again you give it some gas...rinse repeat. If you are successful the car starts inching ever more forward and eventually you can just power over the little rut.

obviously you might have to remove some snow around the drive wheels but theres a chance you can get out of it once the car is moving....and in deep snow momentum is everything...once you are moving you can just plow through the snow as long as you can keep moving (cuz if you stop or if the snow was just too deep to begin with, you'll just get stuck again down the road lol)

Tcoat · 04-21-2022, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

obviously you might have to remove some snow around the drive wheels but theres a chance you can get out of it once the car is moving...

I laugh and laugh at people that are stuck in deep or heavy snow (doesn't have to be deep) that franticly dig out the drive wheels and leave the idler wheels packed in snow. It is like trying to get a car moving with chocks under two wheels. You need to clear snow from ALL wheels.

daiheadjai · 04-21-2022, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

I laugh and laugh at people that are stuck in deep or heavy snow (doesn't have to be deep) that franticly dig out the drive wheels and leave the idler wheels packed in snow. It is like trying to get a car moving with chocks under two wheels. You need to clear snow from ALL wheels.

It's even funnier when the person is frantically digging out the non-drive wheels, while leaving the drive wheels alone. Remember that video of a porch pirate who got their Yaris stuck in a snowbank? And then proceeded to dig out the rear wheels only?

(Note: the Yaris was not a GR Yaris)

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