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06-29-2018, 05:49 AM | #1 |
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EDFC behavior and initial values for automatic dampening
Hello everyone, sicne I have compelted the EDFC pro install on my flex As
I am looking at the charts for the adjustement levels form the speed and cornering G forces in the SA or SL and GA or GL modes. I wish to ask for some advice from people that have used the system in automatic modes. If I am using both adjustements (speed AND G forces) together is there a risk of reaching 0 clicks on the shock absorber in certain conditions? Let's say I start from a 6 clicks front and 6 clicks rear (on a 16 clicks scale), with the car at a stand still. If i go over 100 km/h, the speed adjustement is 4 click stiffer, so now I am at 2. If I take a big corner on that speed (let' say more of 0.45 g) the adjustement for that is 2 click stiff more. In that case I am doing a corner at +100 km/h with one or more shock absorbers at full stiff. that's sound a bit scary. Should I keep this in mind and always keep my "stand still setting" ABOVE a certain level stiffness, never go below a certain value of clicks if i plan to use the automatic modes? what do you recommend? At what levels of dampening (0 to 16) do you set the EDFC with no speed or cornering, before driving in automatic modes? thank you for your opinions |
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I'd just like to say that I think that's interesting that they are adjusting the damping at speed via the top knobs like that. I thought that they only adjust when the car is stationary.
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This is precisely why active damping is banned in virtually every racing series, and has a presence in almost every high end car. It's like a cheat code. |
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1. Yes, you can reach 0, and it will not go past 0. When you turn on the car, notice that the motor turns to max damping, and then backs off 2 full rotations, every time; this is a self-calibration. 2. Yes, depending on how you set it. Max damping is not unusable or dangerous, on a standard spec Flex A. It sounds like you may need to find yourself a local EDFC Active Pro tuner. There are not many out there. If you are unable to find one, I can tune the system for you. |
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Hello Mike,
yes tonight I made a few tests. for now I am a bit cautious, I am trying to avoid reach 0 level damping, in order to avoid the car being on edge, especially on the streets where a sudden little bump can couse troubles on a full still damper... During this last month, before installing the system, I ran 10 front and 8 back on the streets, with the standard rear sway bar. Yesterday I installed a 16 mm adjustable rear bar and set it at the softest setting for now (around 30% more stiff than standard). I have to do more test with the EDFC. I have tried activating the SL + GL strarting from a 16 clicks setting (full soft) front and rear and, on a winding road, it has reached 10. However I think it is too soft. After that I tried 12 front and 10 back but the rear sometimes reached 3 clicks, maybe it is too stiff for the road... I didn't know there were EDFC pro tuners in the first place , i don't even know where I can find one. Maybe we can talk about this? |
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I think you'll be able to figure out a happy setting on your own. For folks reading this, EDFC Active Pro clicks are NOT equivalent to standard clicks. EDFCAP works within a range of 2 full rotations, with 16, 32, or 64 total steppings for those 2 rotations. On a normal FLA, 6 clicks is 1 rotation. |
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Hi Mike
Do the motors really do only 2 rotations?? so what you are saying is that, when I put the EDFC to 16 (on a 0 to 16 scale) the motors have only done 2 rotations, equivalent to 12 "manual" clicks when I didn't have the system installed? that is a huge difference, why did they eliminate the last 4 softer clicks? |
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Did you know my JRZ doesnt even do 1 full rotation on the compression adjustment for the entire range? |
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why not just set the edfc for finer or max level adjustment and run it that way?
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so you do think that even 0 level damping is acceptable on track? do you have any more suggestion on setting these things? I am starting to do some tests.. |
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I like when things automatically get wet.
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