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Old 08-03-2018, 05:46 PM   #113
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What specs does that region have that the U.S. TRD SE doesn't?
Mainly just more color options. I like how with the BRZ you can add the performance pack to any color. The 2019 TRD is still tempting though since I am a Toyota fan.
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:59 PM   #114
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According to data on tirerack.com, it's ¾" higher than Base/GT's but no idea if TRD lowering springs are compatible with the TRD Sachs dampers.


The tire is 3/4" taller. That means that the vehicle itself rides 3/8" higher (the upper half of the tire doesn't add to the ride height).

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Old 08-04-2018, 12:14 AM   #115
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The tire is 3/4" taller. That means that the vehicle itself rides 3/8" higher (the upper half of the tire doesn't add to the ride height).
You sure about that? Wheels affect ride height, too.

Note that my ¾" taller estimate includes half the 18" wheel diameter plus half the tire diameter compared to stock 17".
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Old 08-04-2018, 06:44 AM   #116
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You sure about that? Wheels affect ride height, too.

Note that my ¾" taller estimate includes half the 18" wheel diameter plus half the tire diameter compared to stock 17".
if true would make the car feel slower with worse gearing
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A 3/4" difference is too much. Tire size calculator gives a 1/2" diameter difference:

https://tiresize.com/calculator/

New cars have a 4.3 fd, so a bit longer gearing cause of the bigger wheel should not be an issue. In fact, what you lose in acceleration per gear you gain in top speed per gear. You lose something and you gain something else.
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You sure about that? Wheels affect ride height, too.

Note that my ¾" taller estimate includes half the 18" wheel diameter plus half the tire diameter compared to stock 17".



I think I was using 225/40-18 for my calcs last night. Looks like the overall diameter of the tire is only 5mm bigger which is 2.5mm ride height difference.


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You sure about that? Wheels affect ride height, too.

Note that my ¾" taller estimate includes half the 18" wheel diameter plus half the tire diameter compared to stock 17".


Putting a wheel inside a tire doesn’t change the tire’s diameter. You only need to look at the outer diameter which is the tire. It’s not entirely accurate to go off the tire diameter though because the diameter is measured in an unloaded state. You would really have to measure the actual car to get an accurate number.

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I think I was using 225/40-18 for my calcs last night. Looks like the overall diameter of the tire is only 5mm bigger which is 2.5mm ride height difference.


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I just checked that too not sure where ATMO is getting his #'s its only .2" difference. Effectively only changes the Current 4.3 gear ratio to act like a 4.27 not a huge difference. The weight of the setup could be a difference but we need #'s first to determine how much.
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Can anyone who has Raven/Crystal Black confirm if their paint is metallic? I'm looking at picturesfrom the recent first driven reviews and the paint seems to have that metallic sheen.

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Can anyone who has Raven/Crystal Black confirm if their paint is metallic? I'm looking at picturesfrom the recent first driven reviews and the paint seems to have that metallic sheen.

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I have a 860SE, so my wing tips and mirrors are Raven and yes, they have metal flake.
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I have a 860SE, so my wing tips and mirrors are Raven and yes, they have metal flake.
Appreciate the help! I prefer the BRZ tS interior but the TRD exhaust would be nice to hear.
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Dang, so Thunder was only available for a year? That's probably my favorite color throughout the entire production run of 86s. If I was in the market that's probably what I would snatch up.
After hearing this sad news i did a quick search and could not find any in manual and gt trim. Only a few automatic gt blacks left. Only manual i found was the base model.
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Putting a wheel inside a tire doesn’t change the tire’s diameter. You only need to look at the outer diameter which is the tire. It’s not entirely accurate to go off the tire diameter though because the diameter is measured in an unloaded state. You would really have to measure the actual car to get an accurate number.
I could be overthinking it, but it seems like the tire diameter is one thing, wheel diameter another. They're additive, right? So if an 18" wheel raises ride height 1/2" above a 17" wheel, and the TRD tire adds another 1/4", it's a 3/4" total ride height increase over stock since you can't mount an 18" tire to a 17" wheel.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

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