Greddy turbo

[FullTuneZN6]

Originally Posted by diss7

After spending the afternoon comparing turbos around the 200kw range, I'm convinced the t517z 8cm is an excellent choice for a "Stage 1" (stock fuel system) setup. The t518z 10cm included in this kit, has been chosen so that there is much more headroom in the setup for when the purchaser decides to upgrade fueling.

I've asked Greddy/Trust Japan direct if they have tested a t518z 8cm or t517z 8cm on this setup already, and whether they would consider supplying the kit with one of these turbos as an alternative for those seeking realibility and response more than top end.

+1 Great point...Did they get you an answer?

[diss7]

Originally Posted by FullTuneZN6

+1 Great point...Did they get you an answer?

No not yet.

[FullTuneZN6]

i hope i copied this right, if so here's some greddy frs porn courtesy of ken gushi

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[jamesm]

That is one tiny intercooler, and tube and fin style. Not cool. The kit looks nice though.

[Metzger]

Any word if this kit is going to be CARB legal/CARB legal option? I know Greddy is popular for developing CARB compliant kits, however, I didn't see any cats on the header they are using with this kit, only the flex pipes.

[Bobasaur]

Do the pics indicate that we won't have to tap our oil pans like many other kits would have us do?

[Sellout]

CARB legality is probably not going to be possible with ANY turbo kit for this car. CARB regulations don't allow you to change the catalytic convertor unless it's broken. You have to have the factory cat until the car is out of its emissions warranty, at which point you can have an aftermarket one that meets the factory specifications. There is no such thing as a CARB legal high flow cat anymore.

Basically, we're screwed because there's a cat in the exhaust manifold, and screwed again by the second cat in the front pipe. If someone figures out how to bolt a turbo onto the factory exhaust manifold and then plumb the downpipe to the factory front pipe then it's possible. Otherwise, not happening.

[cmss2000]

Originally Posted by Sellout

CARB legality is probably not going to be possible with ANY turbo kit for this car. CARB regulations don't allow you to change the catalytic convertor unless it's broken. You have to have the factory cat until the car is out of its emissions warranty, at which point you can have an aftermarket one that meets the factory specifications. There is no such thing as a CARB legal high flow cat anymore.

Basically, we're screwed because there's a cat in the exhaust manifold, and screwed again by the second cat in the front pipe. If someone figures out how to bolt a turbo onto the factory exhaust manifold and then plumb the downpipe to the factory front pipe then it's possible. Otherwise, not happening.

Ptuning's turbo can use the stock stock manifold if u want. AP might too.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by cmss2000

Ptuning's turbo can use the stock stock manifold if u want. AP might too.

Nope still doesn't work. Their turbo's use the space originally occupied by the 2nd cat. Ie. it displaces the 2nd cat.

The only way I see a CARB legal turbo kit happening is if it is a true rear mount turbo where it displaces the stock muffler. Thats the only space it can fit into without messing with the cats.

Seems like there is risk (as evidenced by a forum member running the AP kit) of cats disintegrating and destroying turbos that are mounted after them.

[cmss2000]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Nope still doesn't work. Their turbo's use the space originally occupied by the 2nd cat. Ie. it displaces the 2nd cat.

The only way I see a CARB legal turbo kit happening is if it is a true rear mount turbo where it displaces the stock muffler. Thats the only space it can fit into without messing with the cats.

Seems like there is risk (as evidenced by a forum member running the AP kit) of cats disintegrating and destroying turbos that are mounted after them.

The second cat isn't even needed. It's after the last O2 sensor, so removing it doesn't even set off a CEL.
I'm not saying this is going to make it CARB legal, but I passed inspection without it.
I think the tune is going to have an effect also. The Vortech kit is only CARB legal if you use their tune (when it comes out).

[Sellout]

Originally Posted by cmss2000

The second cat isn't even needed. It's after the last O2 sensor, so removing it doesn't even set off a CEL.
I'm not saying this is going to make it CARB legal, but I passed inspection without it.
I think the tune is going to have an effect also. The Vortech kit is only CARB legal if you use their tune (when it comes out).

Isn't needed? By that notion, neither is the first. Or the code that makes you get a check engine light. Hell, the check engine light itself is also not needed.

The point is that a kit which requires you to remove, modify, relocate, or even look at the catalytic convertor in a manner that the CARB doesn't like will not include a CARB sticker.

Vortech is also no longer CARB legal if you change the pulley...

[cmss2000]

Originally Posted by Sellout

The point is that a kit which requires you to remove, modify, relocate, or even look at the catalytic convertor in a manner that the CARB doesn't like will not include a CARB sticker.

If you don't want to remove, modify or relocate anything, then what are you doing in the Forced Induction threads? Stay NA, nobody's twisting your arm.

[Sellout]

Originally Posted by cmss2000

If you don't want to remove, modify or relocate anything, then what are you doing in the Forced Induction threads? Stay NA, nobody's twisting your arm.

You completely missed the point. I started down this tangent after someone asked about CARB legality. Get it now?

[Cessblood]

http://www.greddy.com/products/jdm-s...rtnum=11510094 Greddy kit is $5, 200

Car Make:ScionType:FR-SSize:2013-Notes:also fits Subaru BRZ / Toyota 86for (ZN6) 4U-GSE / (ZC6) FA20Tuner Turbo Kit*( additional fuel managment not included)GReddy*T518Z*-10cm2 actuator turbo*(top-mounted)4-1 SUS Exhaust Manifold with dual flex pipes*(header type)Large SUS downpipe & front pipe*(removes catlyic-conveters)free-flow Airinx AY-SM air intakealuminum intercooler piping (direct routing)Type 40E*Intercooler with cast end-tanksincludes necessary gaskets, heat sheilds, couplings, hose, mounting brackets, etc.*GReddy Dyno results:**+93.5whp* / +68.7ft-lbs* @ 7psi* *(2013 Scion FR-S with GReddy Evo3 exhaust and GReddy Tuned-EcuTek - NOT INCLUDED)* **dyno results may vary depending on conditions, additonal products & tuning*** Compatiable with GReddy Circuit Spec Oil Cooler Kit for FR-S* * *(*p/n 12014632*)*GReddy FR-S Product PagePart #:11510094Price:5200.00