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Old 09-14-2022, 11:40 PM   #15
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I'm kind of the opposite. I like it to look stock and shock the hell out of people with performance.

This kind of thing is nice to look at, but I wouldn't put my money there. Every dollar making it look fast is a dollar you didn't spend making it GO fast. Because there's always more you can do to make it faster. Aero doesn't come in until it's the cheapest thing holding you back.

Not to say there's anything wrong with doing whatever makes you happy. I'm just saying that this isn't where I'd spend my money.
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Old 09-15-2022, 10:32 AM   #16
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makes it look like a 350/370z and therefore
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Old 09-15-2022, 01:02 PM   #17
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Expensive way to lower your resale.
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Old 09-16-2022, 10:30 AM   #18
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The difference is they're talking about keeping looks/power equal.

I'm specifically saying I want them unequal, but in the opposite direction from people that this type of kit generally prefer.

I always want it to be faster than it looks. Mvhs09 wants it to be as fast as it looks. Rocket Bunny types want it to look as fast as possible and actual performance comes second (stereotypically).
And the problem is that our cars already look faster than they are.

Besides, while cars like this are sometimes fun to look at, can't imagine living with it at that height/clearance.
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Old 09-16-2022, 12:19 PM   #19
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Besides, while cars like this are sometimes fun to look at, can't imagine living with it at that height/clearance.
I would assume that in order to achieve that kind of ride height the car is likely bagged. So it's somewhat more driveable than it looks.

However...

There's a reason no serious track car runs bags. (At least not that I've ever heard of.)
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Old 09-16-2022, 01:53 PM   #20
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So where's the wind testing data? There anything done to under the car? Wheel sizes? Why is it on bags? Something nobody who seriously races these car would do.

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I agree with most of what you say. Not enough info in that short clip to know if it does anything more than look good. My one question to you is regarding the term "bags". Do you mean "air bags"? My first thought was a hydraulic system that would permit street driving. You know, getting into/out of driveways and clear speed bumps.
As an aside, air bags have been used in drag racing since the early 60's. I had a pair inside the rear coils of my '69 Chevelle to handle the torque of that 427 on launch.
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Old 09-19-2022, 12:33 PM   #21
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Gonna say I actually like it better than stock. Makes the rest of the body match the fender vents and running boards. More cohesive than the random lines that stock gives.
I agree. Dare I say, it almost looks more first gen or consistent with wide body kits for the first gen. It is more cohesive.

The fenders are a little more aggressive, 370Z than I like, but I would overlook that for something that was more first gen.
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Gonna say I actually like it better than stock. Makes the rest of the body match the fender vents and running boards. More cohesive than the random lines that stock gives.
I think minus the wing would be a good call.
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I think minus the wing would be a good call.
Or at least greatly subdued.
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I like it. Not something I would do to my own car, but looks good to me.
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Or at least greatly subdued.
Is a "subdued" wing just a 'spoiler'?
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Is a "subdued" wing just a 'spoiler'?
Depend upon your definition of wing and spoiler.

A wing doesn't have to be park bench sized it just means it is raised instead of completely attached.

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[QUOTE=x808drifter;3546225]So where's the wind testing data? There anything done to under the car? Wheel sizes? Why is it on bags? Something nobody who seriously races these car would do.

It's nothing more than decoration. An accessory. Like a purse. Not for me. Wear in good health...
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So where's the wind testing data? There anything done to under the car? Wheel sizes? Why is it on bags? Something nobody who seriously races these car would do.

It's nothing more than decoration. An accessory. Like a purse. Not for me. Wear in good health...
More like a fanny pack.

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