follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-24-2013, 04:26 PM   #1
swift996
Senior Member
 
swift996's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Posts: 2,432
Thanks: 712
Thanked 954 Times in 545 Posts
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Overpipe with sway bar clearance?

Wondering if anyone can confirm running any of these over pipe options with a larger front sway bar? I'm running a 25.4mm Hotchkis front sway bar.
__________________
Innovate Supercharged Black Limited BRZ 6-Speed MT(Build Thread)
2010 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan M6 w/550whp (Build Thread)

swift996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2013, 11:47 AM   #2
ATL BRZ
Driving Coach
 
ATL BRZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: BRZ
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 3,666
Thanks: 3,723
Thanked 4,137 Times in 1,707 Posts
Mentioned: 90 Post(s)
Tagged: 6 Thread(s)
I'd like an accurate answer to this as well, but it seems like nearly every aftermarket overpipe has clearance issues with the subframe and/or bigger sways without stiffer engine mounts or grinding down the subframe to allow clearance under load.

Stock overpipe seems like the best bet for a while until the aftermarket figures out how to make them with clearance considering drivetrain movement under load with the stock mounts.
ATL BRZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2013, 12:25 PM   #3
xxscaxx
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ
Location: New York
Posts: 2,240
Thanks: 458
Thanked 878 Times in 556 Posts
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Isn't there minimal gains anyways with an overpipe? I'm doing the same though, leaving the stock overpipe and changing everything else.
xxscaxx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2013, 12:25 PM   #4
chutrain
Senior Member
 
chutrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: WRB BRZ
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 539
Thanks: 26
Thanked 168 Times in 131 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
I have the Hotchkis bar and the overpipe (Motiv) hits the swaybar. I had to use some wide washers to lower the swaybar mounts down slightly to clear. No issues so far.
__________________
In the garage:
1988 BMW E30 M3
2003 Ducati ST4s ABS
2006 Subaru Legacy GT Spec B #444/500 (For Sale)
2013 Subaru BRZ WRB Limited - Acquired 9/15/12
chutrain is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to chutrain For This Useful Post:
swift996 (07-25-2013), Tim_Asphalt_FRS (07-25-2013)
Old 07-25-2013, 12:37 PM   #5
leon78
Senior Member
 
leon78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Drives: 13 Whiteout
Location: Niceville FL
Posts: 666
Thanks: 307
Thanked 241 Times in 142 Posts
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Subbed for no fuss overpipe info.
__________________
2013 Scion FR-S (Whiteout)
GunMetal 16x8+25 Enkei CompE_Cusco OCC_ Kartboy Crank Pulley_Kartboy TMM insert_Koni Yellows_RCE Springs_K&N Drop-In_Eibach FSB_J2 Catless FP_WhiteLine Camber Bolts_NameLess Track Pipe_RBF600_Ferodo DS2500_PTUNING Tuned.
Less parking more racing
leon78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2013, 12:50 PM   #6
ft86me
Senior Member
 
ft86me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: 2013 FRS
Location: Endor
Posts: 1,231
Thanks: 802
Thanked 349 Times in 212 Posts
Mentioned: 60 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
I have the cusco sway bar. Wonder if there will be issues there. Any input? Planning on getting the Perrin overpipe
ft86me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2013, 01:02 PM   #7
ft86me
Senior Member
 
ft86me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: 2013 FRS
Location: Endor
Posts: 1,231
Thanks: 802
Thanked 349 Times in 212 Posts
Mentioned: 60 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Do overpipes usually have an issue?
ft86me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2013, 01:46 PM   #8
Books
Senior Member
 
Books's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: Ultramarine FR-S (MT)
Location: Northeast MA
Posts: 594
Thanks: 125
Thanked 193 Times in 136 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Nameless over/frontpipe combo with Hotchkis front and rear Sway bars

It's hard to tell if it's just the road or the overpipe hitting. So far, if it does, it's not frequent enough but i'll have to check.
__________________
Books is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Books For This Useful Post:
ft86me (07-25-2013)
Old 07-25-2013, 01:54 PM   #9
FastLane1000
Senior Member
 
FastLane1000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Drives: White FR-S, 6M
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 272
Thanks: 70
Thanked 92 Times in 53 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I'm running the hotchkis sway bar kit and motiv overpipe with plenty of clearance.

EDIT: the more I think about it... I have a slight raspiness/vibration under load sometimes that may in fact be the overpipe hitting but I had this before the hotchkis sway bar as well. I need to get back under the car and take a look. I'm going to look into it further and see if there is a suitable place for a torque strap.

Last edited by FastLane1000; 07-26-2013 at 11:54 AM.
FastLane1000 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to FastLane1000 For This Useful Post:
ft86me (07-25-2013), Tim_Asphalt_FRS (07-25-2013)
Old 07-25-2013, 01:59 PM   #10
chutrain
Senior Member
 
chutrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: WRB BRZ
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 539
Thanks: 26
Thanked 168 Times in 131 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Mine was definitely the overpipe hitting the sway bar. I could see some of the paint missing on the swaybar and small mark on the overpipe. I only really hear it when it I give it a good takeoff in first or hard run in second, but it still annoyed me.

I had contacted Motiv and they mentioned that they only tested with the factory swaybar and not with a thicker aftermarket. I suspect that most companies did not test with a thicker aftermarket bar, therefore could be a hit or miss for many.
__________________
In the garage:
1988 BMW E30 M3
2003 Ducati ST4s ABS
2006 Subaru Legacy GT Spec B #444/500 (For Sale)
2013 Subaru BRZ WRB Limited - Acquired 9/15/12
chutrain is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to chutrain For This Useful Post:
ft86me (07-25-2013)
Old 07-25-2013, 02:02 PM   #11
chutrain
Senior Member
 
chutrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: WRB BRZ
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 539
Thanks: 26
Thanked 168 Times in 131 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by FastLane1000 View Post
I'm running the hotchkis sway bar kit and motiv overpipe with plenty of clearance.
Motiv does great work with their products, so I do not fault them. Everything bolted up nicely. It could be variances in the cars themselves, something that I have seen before. I had maybe less than a quarter of an inch between bar and pipe.
__________________
In the garage:
1988 BMW E30 M3
2003 Ducati ST4s ABS
2006 Subaru Legacy GT Spec B #444/500 (For Sale)
2013 Subaru BRZ WRB Limited - Acquired 9/15/12
chutrain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2013, 02:24 PM   #12
swift996
Senior Member
 
swift996's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Posts: 2,432
Thanks: 712
Thanked 954 Times in 545 Posts
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Yeah most of these parts are designed with everything stock in mind. I've ran into quite a few snags where a design didn't have other aftermarket parts factored in. The product of such a new platform!
__________________
Innovate Supercharged Black Limited BRZ 6-Speed MT(Build Thread)
2010 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan M6 w/550whp (Build Thread)

swift996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2013, 01:50 PM   #13
swift996
Senior Member
 
swift996's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Posts: 2,432
Thanks: 712
Thanked 954 Times in 545 Posts
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Anyone running a Perin over-pipe?
__________________
Innovate Supercharged Black Limited BRZ 6-Speed MT(Build Thread)
2010 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan M6 w/550whp (Build Thread)

swift996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2013, 02:00 PM   #14
wawro569
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S MT
Location: New York
Posts: 87
Thanks: 144
Thanked 75 Times in 12 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Nameless OP/DP combo here reporting no issues what so ever.
wawro569 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wheel Directory: Forgestar F14 18x9.5 +38 empower-auto Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack 28 12-26-2014 05:24 AM
Motiv Concepts Overpipe + HFC, Overpipe + Test Pipe Specials! MotivConcepts Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons 96 07-19-2013 02:03 AM
Body Kit with the most clearance? Sambo FRS Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting) 7 06-20-2013 01:47 PM
Driveway Clearance? topazsparrow Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 17 06-14-2013 11:37 AM
BRZ front clearance a2cpc BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 14 01-23-2013 07:38 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.