Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[spike021]

@Sapphireho -



Better keep your toy in the garage :\

[echo419]

so check this out.

the GF works at a pretty large accounting firm and their HR dept sent out an email yesterday.

it had the pic of a note someone left in someone else's mailbox that said, "Do you ever work a full week?". it's a very busy time of the year right now since they have a gov't deadline coming up. HR went on about how this is a place of "Open and Honest Communication(OAHC)" and how bullying like this isn't allowed and that people should talk to others about problems they have or take it up with HR or a partner.

so far the general consensus is that this is hilarious and the person that left the note is a hero.

[Sarlacc]

Originally Posted by echo419

so check this out.

the GF works at a pretty large accounting firm and their HR dept sent out an email yesterday.

it had the pic of a note someone left in someone else's mailbox that said, "Do you ever work a full week?". it's a very busy time of the year right now since they have a gov't deadline coming up. HR went on about how this is a place of "Open and Honest Communication(OAHC)" and how bullying like this isn't allowed and that people should talk to others about problems they have or take it up with HR or a partner.

so far the general consensus is that this is hilarious and the person that left the note is a hero.

Reminds me of when my boss sent me to Copenhagen to help a project there which was behind schedule.
I made friends with several Danes, nice people.
One of them was a junior named Jes and I sat opposite him one late Saturday. He was looking haggard. Pale, red eyes, shaking hands.
So I went over and put my hand on his shoulder and said "Jes. Buddy. I think you need to go home and get some sleep. It's only a job you know, it's not slavery."
He looked up at me with a sad expression and said "You're being naïve. When these people offer you a full-time position they mean 24/7."

Good times :-)

[echo419]

Originally Posted by Sarlacc

Reminds me of when my boss sent me to Copenhagen to help a project there which was behind schedule.
I made friends with several Danes, nice people.
One of them was a junior named Jes and I sat opposite him one late Saturday. He was looking haggard. Pale, red eyes, shaking hands.
So I went over and put my hand on his shoulder and said "Jes. Buddy. I think you need to go home and get some sleep. It's only a job you know, it's not slavery."
He looked up at me with a sad expression and said "You're being naïve. When these people offer you a full-time position they mean 24/7."

Good times :-)

sounds like a commercial for Adderall

[cjd]

Originally Posted by echo419

so far the general consensus is that this is hilarious and the person that left the note is a hero.

That's horrible. I mean, it's possible it's well earned. Its also possible something else is going on. And public anonymous shaming suggests the company culture is worth getting away from.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by cjd

That's horrible. I mean, it's possible it's well earned. Its also possible something else is going on. And public anonymous shaming suggests the company culture is worth getting away from.

That was my take on it as well, there is nothing funny about that note. It's the beginning of a slippery slope and its appropriate to address it. If someone has a concern about someone's work ethic it should be taken to the boss, not be a public dispute. If the person that left the note worked for me, they wouldn't have a job right now.

[echo419]

Originally Posted by cjd

That's horrible. I mean, it's possible it's well earned. Its also possible something else is going on. And public anonymous shaming suggests the company culture is worth getting away from.

it's well earned. since said person turned in the note to HR they know it's a slacker that "calls in sick" to much. they're just trying to deflect by crying to HR.

shamming? yeah I wouldn't call it that. their HR dept is super PC and all "progressive". I'd post a screen cap but the letter head is all over it. they basically asked the person(since they aren't certain who did it) and anyone else in the future to go through the proper channels.

regardless it's hilarious and if my office wasn't so small I'd be doing that too.

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

That was my take on it as well, there is nothing funny about that note. It's the beginning of a slippery slope and its appropriate to address it. If someone has a concern about someone's work ethic it should be taken to the boss, not be a public dispute. If the person that left the note worked for me, they wouldn't have a job right now.

if you showed up to work and did your job you wouldn't have to worry about that.

besides the person that left the note didn't take it public. that was HR and they've kept the person anonymous to everyone except a few partners.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by cjd

That's horrible. I mean, it's possible it's well earned. Its also possible something else is going on. And public anonymous shaming suggests the company culture is worth getting away from.

I didn't read it as there was any public shaming. The note was in a mail box and HR just posted it as an example of what not to do. I do hope they didn't attache the persons name to it though. I would say that the company is attempting to address the issue not support such a culture.

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

That was my take on it as well, there is nothing funny about that note. It's the beginning of a slippery slope and its appropriate to address it. If someone has a concern about someone's work ethic it should be taken to the boss, not be a public dispute. If the person that left the note worked for me, they wouldn't have a job right now.

Same here. This sort of thing can escalate fast and is what can result in violence and a poisoned workplace.

I can totally imagine the reaction from most people here if they came in to work and found such a note addressed to them. See how "hilarious" it was then true or not.

[echo419]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I didn't read it as there was any public shaming. The note was in a mail box and HR just posted it as an example of what not to do. I do hope they didn't attache the persons name to it though. I would say that the company is attempting to address the issue not support such a culture.

basically this. that is their intention.

pretty sure if I was at that office people would instantly look at me as the note writer. that's what the GF said to me last night. I told her, "I would have just told the MF'er they need to start showing up to work and I'm tired of picking up their slack.".

Same here. This sort of thing can escalate fast and is what can result in violence and a poisoned workplace.

I can totally imagine the reaction from most people here if they came in to work and found such a note addressed to them. See how "hilarious" it was then true or not.

geeze I thought you Canadians were all friendly and stuff.

[Sarlacc]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

... poisoned workplace ...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by echo419

basically this. that is their intention.

pretty sure if I was at that office people would instantly look at me as the note writer. that's what the GF said to me last night. I told her, "I would have just told the MF'er they need to start showing up to work and I'm tired of picking up their slack.".



geeze I thought you Canadians were all friendly and stuff.

Nah we may be marginally calmer than Americans but this shit still goes down.

On a semi related note I noticed a very interesting pattern while traveling this week.
I had to make 3 changes in order to get from London On to Greenville SC.

Going
London to Toronto - Everybody sitting at the gate chatting and waiting to board. When they announce boarding is starting we all stay put and carry on until our zone is called then we got up and strolled onto the plane.
Toronto to New York - A handful of people line up at the zone lines about 10 minutes before boarding but the majority do the same as in London.
New York to Greenville - People are lined up half way across the terminal 45 minutes before boarding there are only about 4 of us sitting chatting while we wait for our zone to be called. Nobody is talking to anybody in line. Not even to people that are obviously with them. A fist fight almost breaks out when one guy try's to cut into line. A woman is screaming at the gate attendant because she boards in zone 3 and she want to be in zone 1. When boarding starts everybody surges forward and overwhelms the attendant by all pushing their boarding passes at him at once.

Returning
Greenville to Altanta - Everybody but me is lined up half an hour before boarding. A little bit more laid back but you can still feel the tension. The only complaint was some old woman that yelled discrimination because a couple serving military were allowed to board before she was and she had a business class seat.
Atlanta to Toronto - About 80% up waiting almost an hour before boarding. The rest were pretty much Canadians. I know this because we all sat and chatted until our zones were called and the lines of people that had been standing there had cleared up.
Toronto to London - Everybody sitting at the gate chatting and waiting to board. When they announce boarding is starting we all stay put and carry on until our zone is called then we got up and strolled onto the plane.

The differences were actually startling. I mean why line up and wait? You have an assigned seat it isn't like it is first come first served and it actually slows down the process considerably.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The differences were actually startling. I mean why line up and wait? You have an assigned seat it isn't like it is first come first served and it actually slows down the process considerably.

It's usually the battle for carry-on space that drives it from my observations. Me, I'd be sitting with you. Sometimes I'm the last person on the plane even when my section was called way earlier.

[MuseChaser]

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[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by echo419

if you showed up to work and did your job you wouldn't have to worry about that.

This may be true, but it's irrelevant. That falls right along with "she's asking for it, look how she dresses".

Originally Posted by echo419

besides the person that left the note didn't take it public. that was HR and they've kept the person anonymous to everyone except a few partners.

Again, irrelevant. The person showing up for work needs to be addressed, but so does the behavior of someone willing to leave this note rather than address it properly. Both are abuses, pure and simple. One can be fixed (attendance), the other may actually be more serious because it points to character.

I'm guessing we disagree and that's OK. At some level I do find it funny (one of those we all wish we could do that sort of thing), but that doesn't mean it's right or appropriate.